>Batman's Back, Man: Harley Quinn and her best friend Poison Ivy aren't in this episode... which focuses on Batman waking from his coma and vowing to take back Gotham City.
Upcoming episodes:
>we do a flashback episode to Harleen and Joker’s initial courtship that is much more of an homage to Batman: The Animated Series
>In the second season we have a bachelorette party that is Ivy, Harley, Catwoman and I don't want to give away - there's one character I can't say. And then one of Harley’s childhood friends who's just like a normy from like back home, her friend Jen is on Themyscira because of some villainy had been turned into a resort. It’s a girl's weekend out, let's say.
> 1) He dies from a big bad of the season. > 2) Ivy dumps him (for whatever reason), but Harley and Ivy figure his stuff out and part with him in good terms. > 3) He dumps Ivy.
Jackson Parker
I'd prefer the third option, desu. Many say that it benefits him and him alone, but it doesn't seem that way.
By what was shown, he's the one, like Freeze said, who does everything for the sake of their relationship, forced to lose things or get hurt.
He's insecure about himself and feels that life with Ivy is the only path that may lead him to a worthy future. Now he feels responsible to support her way throughout, all so Kiteman would remain the part of her life.
And by what was shown, she's not doing the same. Her leaving him at the venue, to basically lose his dream, should ring a bell. Right now, Kiteman is not 'the future husband', but more of an instrument that makes Ivy feel more socially invested.
It doesn't look that bad yet, but I bet that in the future episodes it's going to get worse, to the point where even he will start realizing that this is no good.
Jace Bailey
>there's one character I can't say its the joker, so fucking obvious
I don't get what this fixation that the left have on smiling. I've been told I should smile more and I didn't have a hissy fit about it, I just said ok and let it be. Is it another non issue that feminists?
Angel Brooks
It's just generally a cunty thing people say to women, because they tend to project their traumas onto them.
Charles Young
A) its a joke because BG did noting but smile B) its a common sexual harrasment thing, telling females to smile and look pretty over just doing their job. Comes mostly from the hospitality indusrty when women are encouraged to basically act like sluts to earn money
Lucas Thompson
Commenting on a person's looks and behavior without being prompted is a "micro-aggression".
Here, though, it's also mixed with being irrelevant (Why should Batgirl smile more? She's a crime-fighter, not a hostess at a restaurant) and with being said by a "critic" who (1) has not watched the show and (2) would only watch an episode of the show if it doesn't focus on women. So it's saying that "some" critics of the show are just misogynists and their criticism is invalid.
I don't think a single post in Zig Forums Harley Quinn thread ever complained that the female characters don't smile enough or that the show is focused on Harley Quinn too much.
But hey, as long as the writers feel that these are their critics, they don't need to make any effort to make the show better.
Christopher Sullivan
>The left Jesus, the left wouldn't be going on rent strike if they knew they could live in your mind rent free.
Easton Sullivan
>I don't think a single post in Zig Forums Harley Quinn thread ever complained >that the show is focused on Harley Quinn too much Wrong.
Eli Carter
Jesus the butt hurt is worse then TTG haters. Why can't you all just let a joke be a joke.
Benjamin Richardson
>let a joke be a joke Because the joke is designed to invalidate criticism as if it's all coming from women-haters who never watched the show.
Henry Morales
People just say this to hot people. It's a way to get attention from hot people. And women dont want to give attention to anyone but select hot men and friends.
I know this because I'm a dude and two cougars at work pulled this on me. They would tap on glass and get my attention to smile.
I dont know who started it, but yeah, it's just a bottom of the barrel lazy attempt to start a physical relationship
Michael James
Those posts said Harley Quinn is a bad character and that other characters in the show are better than her, but not a single post said a show called Harley Quinn shouldn't be focused on Harley Quinn.
>The revisionism is this bad People have said that the Harley Quinn show would be better if Harley Quinn wasn't in it. From the very start, some people have wanted this to be the Joker show.
Ethan Morgan
basically an idiot
Nicholas Cook
you know men are also told to smile, it's a proven fact that it increases the chance of tips and shit. no idea how smiling equates to acting like a slut
Dominic Wilson
There's a real point behind it, but there's certainly an over-reaction in the direction of the idea that women should never need to smile or be positive. Pretty miserable.
Landon White
you're racist/sexist if you don't like my product has been a tactic companies have been using for years
Gavin Garcia
Because she is the least entertaining character. The same people would also say that Poison Ivy should show more or that they want to marry Clayface.
Andrew Wilson
God this show sucks. Stop shilling please.
Landon Clark
Post examples or shut the fuck up.
Landon Jones
I never said she wasn't. I just agree with
Dominic King
This. My boss told me to smile always, and a female coworker had to teach me how to smile properly. They even wanted me to do therapy over it because i apparently had sad eyes.
Elijah Smith
Frankly the Joker sucks in this show too. But instead of confirming these imaginary posts that said Harley Quinn should appear less in the Harley Quinn show, ask them to go through the archive and actually find these posts.
They don't exist.
People complained that Harley is one of the weakest characters and other characters are more entertaining. That doesn't translate into "take Harley out of the show", it translates into "make Harley a more interesting character."
Jordan Howard
I was an example. But I slowly changed my mind.
Cameron Gomez
to you it's a rational way to increase the quality of your work to a woman it's the worst crime ever, because you told her she should do something
Aaron Phillips
personally, it makes more since that Ivy is her own actual person, or make it about huntress, Harley is way too, or should I say barely interesting, I prefer the side characters, on how they are somewhat more funny, compared to harley, Ivys jokes are funnier than harleys, compared to "He fucks bats" to Ivy just fucking around with no cares, and being the realist in the group, with the fact that Ivy is pretty smart, as giving harley advice over everything
Dominic Hernandez
For example pic related. It doesn't say "take Harley out of the show", it says "make Harley more interesting"
So you wanted a show called Harley Quinn to be about the Joker? That's sad. Show posts where you said this.
Wow that's the equivalent of rape or manspreading. It's no wonder women hate being told to smile.
Ian Miller
Better then the guys who always look like they are about to murder someone because they got resting mad face
Gavin Smith
watch this you might get some good pointers
Daniel Gonzalez
I wasn't asked for evidence. I was asked to go diving into desuarchive, find my old posts, and screencap them which is more effort than you'd be willing to put in and way more of an ask than you're worth and you're an idiot. Your evidence doesn't disprove what I'm saying. It just proves that some people like Harley.
Benjamin Peterson
Yup that's disgusting, and the writers of Harley Quinn want you to believe that its critics are that type of person.
Jaxon Long
Like I said, you won't provide evidence of what you claim.
Benjamin Rogers
Why do white women whine about nothing?
Andrew Miller
what is with the white women in this thread?
Ayden Wood
I feel like the "good morning" and "good evening" are just people being polite. A rarity for New York, I know. But that other stuff seems really fucking tiring.
Jose Davis
>only women get harassed on the street you should get out more
Carson Cruz
>nothing Those are pretty aggressive catcalls. I'm male and if someone harassed me like that on the street I'd be pissed.
Juan Bell
Pretty sure the writers are just talking about people who hate thing on principle without giving it a chance. the video was more for the "whats so bad about smiling" thing.
Josiah Russell
Yeah, won't. Not can't. I agree with you on that.
Camden Hill
Why do yanks think everyone is just as disrespectful as them?
Anthony Jenkins
You won't because you can't.
Chase Taylor
>not twisting the guys nipples yeah, you can say im a professional fighter
Carter Perez
Getting asked for money or directions ain't the same thing dude. You ain't a victim because the suits want to tell you about the good word
Angel Wright
As an extremely hot guy myself i can attest this happens to men as well, and that women are even worse with catcalling, specially the younger girls.
We don't we think everywhere is much much worse. Are best argument for not liking something about the country is to leave, because everywhere not america is a death world. Mad Max is Canada to Americans
Christian Hall
>because you told her she should do something
There is some arrested development there. But no more than incels or mra types. Ultimately they dont want society to put pressure on them to do things that are risks.
But it's also scarier to women. I've been on the other side as a man and I was not afraid of the women that asked me to smile even if there was a sexual side to it. Women on the other hand react to everything with fear. You tell them to smile and they think you want to rape them. They are constantly thinking about risk
Jordan Baker
do you like it?
Christian Taylor
Keep telling yourself that.
Jace Sanchez
>Getting asked for money or directions ain't the same thing dude. We both know that's not what I mean't, why are you strawmanning me? >You ain't a victim because the suits want to tell you about the good word Never made a claim to be a victim, i'm claiming the exact opposite actually. Getting catcalled does not make you a victim, women aren't children they can handle some asshole saying mean things to them. Basically grow a thicker skin
You do know that grow a thicker skin memes are a bunch of shit and it's because they're always said by people who are complaining about other people complaining. Like how you're doing.
Levi Gomez
Pot kettle black
Bentley Cook
You're fucking up the "and run away" part of the "declare victory and run away"
Logan Peterson
>Those are pretty aggressive catcalls. children will be shot by cops and white women will still complain about some bullshit and try to equate it through inter-sectionalism. Get the fuck over yourself, please.
Weak episode. Tells us things that we already know (Two-Face disrespects Bane, Bruce Wayne is injured and can't be Batman, Batgirl has taken up the mantle of fighting crime) and recycles half its jokes.
How is this a pot calling the kettle black senerio? I have no problem being called mean words or being catcalled. Usually spoiled brats who complain about non issues are annoying. Sorry the response to bitching about non issues is not what you expected.
Anthony Bell
but the strawman wasnt wrong though
Josiah Roberts
Why can't we fix cops shooting children AND fix catcalls at the same time?
Aaron Howard
so, 120 second for 10 hours is 12 second/hour, or 0,2 min/60 min, which gives 1/300 chance, or one second for each 5 minutes of walk, which constitutes a man saying "nice", in a place as crowded as new york. Huh,
Kayden Foster
Yes, catcalls are only a problem in dense urban areas where people can fade into the crowd.
Like groping in Japanese trains or rape in Indian trains.
Angel Morales
Still waiting on the episode
Caleb Smith
>episode doesn't feature any of the main cast >it's the weakest episode in the show What did they mean by this?
David Morris
We dont have the MEGA so we cant talk about it
Nathan Carter
i feel no responsibility for how a crowd acts, and would suggest to the women that if they can't handle crowds, they should not go near them instead of trying to regulate them. And if they can, they should face the consequences, much closer to a man saying "nice", than groping or rape.
>why can't we stop the American police state from killing children/teenagers vs >why can't we stop this irrelevant first world problem mainly white women are affected by
Which one would you rather put time and resources towards? Which one is the more worthwhile goal here?
Intersectionality is the belief that all problems are interconnected and that if you focus on one problem, and ignore the others, the other problems will just bring the problem you solved back eventually. It's not an either/or with them.
Zachary Rivera
My bad,i was searching the episode somewhere else so i missed it
Xavier Davis
Just finished watching. It was okay. I prefer more of the main crew, but it was fine as a interlude episode.
People getting triggered over the show's strawman (and acting more idiotic then it) is pretty funny.
Jaxson Cox
Nice thx
Juan Lopez
What the hell does any of it have to do with intersectionality? There are already people on the street, if they just say "man that's not cool, stop harassing that woman" they will stop. No kids are going to die if you do that.
Jose Jones
>if you focus on one problem, and ignore the others, the other problems will just bring the problem you solved back eventually. explain to me how ignoring white women bitching about catcalling online and instead choosing to focus on an actual issue will eventually, somehow, lead to a '92 LA Riots type situation. I really hope you realize how retarded what you're saying is.
Isaac Howard
>Women are so sensitive bitching about catcalling. Such first world problems. >FUCK all these SJW have taken over a media property, and are making jokes I don't like. REEE
Joseph Bennett
It's always projection
Ryan Adams
>catcalling is the same as taking over an industry to push a political ideology Ok
Tyler Rogers
>I really hope you realize how retarded what you're saying is You should look in the mirror and repeat that to yourself. I was only defining intersectionality. Because doesn't seem to know.
What the hell does kids dying have to do with anything?
Kevin Fisher
Because there already was one amaizing one and one recent one? How would they even top the original justice league cartoon?
Anthony Torres
Not liking a piece of media is 100% entitled first world problems.
Matthew Thompson
Harley Quinn is the favorite villain of every Chad (hot, sexually active, fun, sympathetic, votes for Bernie Sanders).
Dr. Doom is the favorite villain of every Incel (hideous, frigid, repetitive, fascist, muh right-wing politics).
I don't even give a fuck about Batman, I stopped indulging in capeshit for a while now, even though I think isolating a demographic with "I AM SILLY" tier audience criticism is beyond retarded.
I'm just here to stand by the statement >> (white) Women are so sensitive bitching about catcalling. Such first world problems.
>I stopped indulging in capeshit for a while now. That got a chuckle out of me.
Kevin Price
>Intersectionality is the belief that all problems are interconnected You're having a fit about my definition of intersectionality being wrong despite me not having any grievances or disagreements with the literal meaning of it. I just think it's fucking stupid and gives privileged and unopposed classes of individuals like white women some sort of fake ground to stand on. That's disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.
>arguing about about the false comparison of black children being shot and fucking catcalling is bitching now everything every board has said about Zig Forums is right, plankton brains itt
Jace Wilson
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Michael Gomez
Other than you, who is comparing catcalling to children being shot?
Chase Phillips
Synopsis for the next week's episode: > Harley and Ivy play the world's most dangerous version of "marry, fuck, kill".
Robert Bell
I'm not going to spoonfeed you, illiterate user.
David Cook
>Creates a man of straw >Is outraged against the enemy he created on his head >Gets pissed off when people call him out Such is the mind of the Trump supporter.
Parker Wilson
I bet the choices are Bane, Two-Face and Batman.
Carson Butler
Intersectionality is a criticism of white feminism thought. It says that while you have issues with being a women, you still ultimately benefit from your whiteness, which means you can miss the issues that say a non white female suffers. And that social movements shouldn't be laser focused on a single issue. Aka the white feminists who target issues that impact them, but ignore the issues that don't impact them. Intersectionality is mostly used by non white feminists to clash with white feminists.
Anyway overall, people are missing the point of the two nerds watching. They religiously watch, and post about a show that they claim to hate. You know like all the people in this thread. If you think something is shit, don't keep eating it and complaining about it being shit. Just stop watching. It's the same reason why I don't watch Batwoman and Supergirl.
This is all first world issues. That is fine, just don't keep nattering on about how the thing you don't care about is first world issues, while the stuff you do care about is the evil SJWs poisoning the minds of america ... by writing a few basic misogyny jokes in a show on a obscure streaming service.
Nathan Flores
>I can't scroll up to figure out context on my own, and this guy isn't spoonfeeding me, therefore he must be a MAGAtard! I'm black and a registered independent. You're embarrassing yourself cumskin.
Henry Kelly
>the evil SJWs poisoning the minds of America things I never said or insinuated. You're making this out to be something it really, really isn't.
Social movements need to have their own laser focused issue or they lose track and lose all sense of progress. This is how Occupy failed. This is how BLM failed. This is how all movements and calls for reform have failed.
Issues have to be distinguished from non issues. Starting from entertainment media, a tool with much more strength than any MSM outlet could have. I'm not "blasting the sjws", don't put words in my mouth. All I'm stating is how brainlet it is to try to mock up catcalling as a genuine problem when there's so many more, significant and widely affecting issues in the US.
>and a registered independent. You're more likely a registered sexual offender, considering your obsession with catcalling.
You think that a cute girl will suck your dick if you call her "babe" while you cross roads?
Brody Gonzalez
Occupy failed because it was various groups of people and not all of them wanted the same thing. BLM failed because of the war on drugs.
Kayden White
Not when it's propaganda
Easton Perry
When did the Harley Quinn show say that catcalling was a massive issue. It's a comedy show, it needs to fire off jokes, and it makes some misogyny jokes. Alongside all the jokes about pop culture stuff, and made up comic book lore.
And I'm explaining what the word means, because you still don't get it. And no, social movements need to be laser focused on gaining power and using it. Occupy would have never worked no matter how focused, because sitting in a park does nothing. Electing politicians closer to your views does something. Occupy easily got shut down, because they let Bloomberg get elected Mayor, leaving them without power. That is it
And the comment about SJWs is in response to this guy
Jose Flores
BLM failed because Soros stopped funding it
Nolan Nelson
You insult people in a way that lets them know you use Twitter way too much. Get a life faggot. >Occupy failed because it was various groups of people and not all of them wanted the same thing with no explicit, laser focused, detail plan of action or with an idea of what they wanted to do. Several legitimate criticisms and anecdotes from individuals who were a part of OWS can vouch for the fact that idpol completely fucked up Occupy and the initial goal of it.
BLM failed because they wanted to achieve too many things at once instead of progressive steps and ended up overreaching. also, as always, white people ruined it.
Evan Nguyen
Did BLM fail. Trump signed a sentencing reform bill with some stuff, and a large portion of the Democratic primary talked about their issues.
Henry Lopez
And you insult people in a way that lets them know you're afraid of other men liking you and also that you're black.
Jaxon Martin
>>we do a flashback episode to Harleen and Joker’s initial courtship that is much more of an homage to Batman: The Animated Series
But why? She already got over him.
Nathan Green
kek
Landon Howard
It will be nice seeing Harleen, how did she fall for the clown, how she and Ivy met and how was Ivy before Harleen mellowed her out.
Ethan Harris
>goes woke >Nora gets her heart broke
Cooper Hall
I'm gonna ignore your little >because you still don't get it because I've been through this already and I'm convinced you're either just really dumb or shitposting.
Social movements gaining power and using it is great and all, but they have to have a purpose or they're not even going to be able to get that power. All social movement power comes from social media support more than actual rallying. If MSM sees the same thing trending and making headlines, they're going to give it coverage, and that's where the power comes from. You have your priorities on things backwards. Activists be active with the SPECIFIC movement they want to support, it gets picked up, thats where the power comes from.
>Occupy would have never worked no matter how focused, because sitting in a park does nothing. Spoken like a true newfag who had no idea how OWS worked internally or what the plans were. I do agree that New Yorkers were dumb as fuck for letting Bloomberg get elected though.
