Why isn't there a Serious King Arthur Show
Why isn't there a Serious King Arthur Show
How do you mean? Adapted from French romances (which added a ton of stuff people expect) or the earlier Brythonic stories perhaps (with fun like Merlin still being 'Myrddrin' and is more of a crazy fortune-teller, and practically everyone is an asshole)?
The franchise is filled with too much cuckoldery.
It'd have to be the French medieval stuff because practically no one would recognize it if it was done like the earliest known stories
Yeah but Arthur actually does something about it
Arthur was himself conceived by his dad fucking a woman disguised as her husband (who was actually dead). In some versions Merlin was born the same way (except in that case, his dad was a fucking incubus disguised as dead husband, where as Uther was a man).
They shot down all of my spin-offs.
It reminds the British that they had a culture once before they were "diversified". So no way.
Only Greg's Jewish autism could do Arthur right.
Knights were the go to "fantasy setting" back in the 80s and 90s, now it's vikings
Because you can't make an Arthurian narrative without laying the fall of Camelot at the feet of women, specifically Guinevere and Morgana. Teaching girls that their actions have consequences is a BIG no-no in modern media.
whoever made it so Mordred is Arthur's son I like the spin on it.
Is Guinevere a thot?
why did the french have a massive hate boner for Arthur?
Because they had just conquered the people whose myth Arthur is?
That might be the Welsh. They called him Merdraut, and while not explicitly stated, when 'Arthur's son' (who's name is not otherwise given) is mentioned, he's described the same as 'Medraut' ('moderator' or 'overseer'). Later, Geoffrey of Monmouth made him Arthur's nephew, and son of King Lot. Even if the Britons thought of him as Arthur's son though, he would've been a legitimate son, and Medraut is portrayed as heroic, and the two died together at the Battle of Camlann against the Saxons.
They conquered the English. Arthurian myth is Celto-Roman. The English had conquered most of them (not Wales though, and Cornwall was still largely inhabited by Cornish-speakers, a Brythonic Celtic people) when a Danish-descended French lord (William) conquered England. The myth comes from neither.
>rest of the books: never
Sure you can. Both of those details were inserted by fanfic writers who cared more about their Gary Stus.
The only good French addition was the the Grail.
The original one had neither Guinevere or Morgana. Arthur's kingdom fell because he and his son died in battle originally. That was it. And even the second time the collapse of his land is mentioned by Geoffrey of Monmouth, neither are a factor. The French added that all that stuff. Hell, they actually added in Lancelot whole sale, which is kind of necessary for the adultery part.
Lancelot might not have been totally made up by the French. There was an Irish champion in the Welsh stuff called Llenleogg, though he was pretty minor, or a Welsh hero called Llwch Llawwynnauc, but in their stuff the only similarities, apart from possibly deriving Lancelot from one of those, is that they were a friend of Arthur. But neither betray Arthur.
I'd actually like one based on the older stuff but I can't fathom pronouncing Brythonic names.
Seriously, what the hell is with the Welsh language?
For that matter, earlier Morgana is fully rehabilitated and takes Arthur off to Avalon or whatever, so she could still be used even if user's nonsense were relevant.
Plus they just had that show with Black Gwen, and Morgana was totally the final boss and got Arthur killed.
Actually, comparing the different stories, the French writers added like 90% of the betrayals and backstabbing.
What was their boner for traitors?
I don’t think it’s easy for modern audiences to “get” the Arthurian legends, and not just because the source material is so complex and tangled. Notice how Arthur and Camelot are things people are aware of through pop culture, but how many people have read or watched an actual Arthurian story? Not many I reckon. The only really good film adaptation is fucking Monty Python (and no, Excalibur and Lancelot du Lac do not count). No one reads Idylls of the King anymore, let alone The Once and Future King. The ethos of medieval romance is something we’re very distant from, so modern adaptations will borrow the names and events but none of the spirit.
Welsh isn't that hard to approximate once you know the orthography, except Ll is kind of gross. All adapted media just uses English though.
Just inserting what passed for their courtly trends.
>Episodic action show where Arthur slowly expands his kingdom.
>Each episode focuses on a Knight and Arthur getting into Wacky adventures
>Mordrid: No Arthur, I am your son.
>Holy grail arc
Its a literal gold mine
Supposedly there is a series being produced by Bad Wolf Productions (a bunch of people who worked on Doctor Who during the Eccelston and Tenet days) based on Bernard Cornwell's books
Because a King Arthur series featuring the primary beats consoomers would expect is too Christian oriented for the current climate.The creative phase as a collective whole are currently in a 'FUCK YOU DAD' rebellious phase where quality takes a backseat to meta commentary, ironic humour and SUBVERSIVE.
Not even a religiousfag.
But there is almost no Christian elements in the story. At most we have the Grail and thats it
Lol when are Camelot shows and movies ever Christian? Fuck off.
I'd like the post-Roman British stuff. Where the 'knights' are actually mostly local kings or warrior-heroes, and Arthur is just the high king. The stories are less mined than French courtly romances and could offer a more fresh perspective to a lot of folks on Arthurian legend. Still lots of exciting, fantastic elements, like fighting giants, a man who can't be killed by beheading, and then realistic wars against Picts and Angles and Saxons and Jutes and sometimes Irish raiders. Plenty of adventuring and political ambitions that were often settled by getting champions to duel, magic weapons, divine miracles.
It's fertile ground that's underused when people adapt Arthur, because the medieval stuff is the standard.
You haven't actually read much arthurian legend have you? Huge amounts of it are direct references to Celtic Christianity that was developing in Ireland and Britain after the Romans left. Big elements are still in the French stuff.
user most of the stuff is pegan shit. Like a Fey green Giant that cant be killed. Merlin was an old school druid not a fucking half demon baby.
Myrddrin Wyllt was said to be a poet, which while bards were a part of druids, persisted after the druids stopped being a thing (and no British druids had existed since the Romans slaughtered them at Ynys Mon, all that were left were in Ireland). He went insane after seeing his king die in battle, ran off to live in the woods and began talking to birds and gained the power of prophecy.
He wasn't a druid. Druids had to have a very specific education, and be trained by other druids. We actually know quite a bit about how you became one, and it would've been impossible for him since he'd have no potential educator. Druids themselves did believe their teachings originated from gods, so short of one showing up to teach Merlin personally or him being taught by a druid (that didn't exist anymore), he couldn't be a druid.