Seeing as the next fight is a stomp let's talk about something fairer. Who'd win?

Randy would cut her in half.

randy stomps and then season 3 of the show is announced

Randy end the fight samurai style and the killing slash happens only when he sieves the sword.

Has a woman ever lost to a man in DB?
I can only think of Bayo vs Dante.
DB wants to protect coomers.

Do you seriously need another death battle shilling thread?

Captain Marvel Beat Carol that one time

Tracer got fucked up pretty by Scout, even though Scout.

Did Billy beat Carol, though? I hadn't seen that episode.

And unless he can do something about the butterfly, it'll just keep replicating and transforming more people. Bear in mind that in lieu of Ladybug, it can only be destroyed by something that completely erases matter from existence.

a) what's the next fight and what is the current one I don't actually watch the show
b) lady bug literally has an I win button with her miraculous and time travelers to fix it if she ever jobs.

Straight up the only answer. If she can win she will win, it's kinda how her power works.

Only if that's part of her plan to achieve ultimate victory. You can beat her pre-miraculous but once she's popped the cheeky fucker you're guaranteed either a loss or a Pyrrhic victory.
Her power is mastery over creation/luck. While she isn't a master of her power the power itself is still the toppest of tiers.

One of the Akuma, a fucking mook-tier starter villain, nearly sent the Earth careening into the Sun.

Randy dies against any of them. And if you send him up against something like Chat Blanc, then he dies even harder.

Nah if you were to kill the butterfly or to trap it by some mystical method you'd be fine.
Akuma most villains are destructive but not overwhelming in a fight. Others are complete reality warpers that only lose due to their own hubris and the nature of their host. Randy would be fucked against those because they were only beaten through intimate knowledge of the most and abusing the fuck out of the ability to destroy literally anything

>kill the butterfly
Only something on the level of Cataclysm can do that.

>trap it by some mystical method
They can squeeze through any crack, no matter how seemingly airtight.

They're magic. Just because they've avoided conventional entrapment doesn't mean anything in my opinions.

>Nah if you were to kill the butterfly or to trap it by some mystical method you'd be fine.
The only confirmed way to trap/destroy an Akuma outside o Ladybug is complete conceptual destruction via Cataclysm. Which Randy does not have. His sword won't do shit to them.

Also, Stormy Weather wasn't a reality warper. Her power was just that: weather control. Except it was weather control powerful enough to completely fuck Earth's orbit and toss it straight into the sun. She isn't even remotely notable on Akuma powerscales.

As I said, Randy dies against any of them. The Akuma are entirely outside of his weightclass.

Randy because he is op

I wasn't walking about stormy weather. I was talking broadly about other akuma villains. The ability to shift orbit is seperate from their ability to win a fight.
Just seeing that single webm I'd say Randy fights better than either Chat or Ladybug. The only thing he jobs on is being able to stop the actual butterflies.
Ladybug still wins because of her miraculous but you're being deceptive with how you're portraying shit.

They're magic in the same way that what DC's Endless can do is "magic." They're a result of a primordial fundamental function of existence forcibly using its powers for evil. The only thing ever shown to even remotely deter them are equal if not superior effects, courtesy of the literal abstracts of Creation and Destruction.

Randy does not have this. He's not even remotely on this level of power. His best feats top out at city level at the very most.

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>The ability to shift orbit is seperate from their ability to win a fight.
It really isn't. It's a direct extension of their powers and requires very little effort. Timebreaker could kill Randy by literally freezing time and slitting his throat with his own sword or whatever she has on hand. Sandboy could kill him with his manifest nightmares. Timetables could go back in time and murder younger him and his entire family if he cared. And even the fucking Pharaoh could likely break him in half.

I'm not even bringing up any of the actually broken ones here, barring Timetagger. Literally all of these have abilities Randy couldn't deal with even if we wanked him to hell.

Again, you're being deceptive. The butterflies are NOT on the level of primordial magic. Plenty of series have their own sealing magic and it should by all respects work on them.
They evade mundane containment and that's all we've seen.
Moreover, for all this kwami-wank generally speaking they don't act without instruction anymore and as users Ladybug and Chat are godawful - as seen in the latest episode where both Hawkmoth and Foo discuss that proper users can avoid miraculous timers and Foo implied there are other things a user can do to improve their kwami performance.
Plagg himself is the strongest figure in the show and he can't manage to control his OWN power which is why the kwamis don't act on their own.

You are completely off with this portrayal.

I think Randy has her beat, but it'd be a close thing.
Unless he times her out, as one of the biggest pluses of the mask is that it doesn't have a time limit.

Yeah, I said that some could murk him without effort see: >Akuma most villains are destructive but not overwhelming in a fight. Others are complete reality warpers that only lose due to their own hubris and the nature of their host

Lady and Chat win because they are uniquely equipped to fight them but they aren't incredibly strong fighters themselves

Timelimits only appear if they use their miraculous and Lady's is fucking broken so that'd be the end of the fight right there. If he wins it'd be before the miraculous because no one ever wins after.

>The butterflies are NOT on the level of primordial magic. Plenty of series have their own sealing magic and it should by all respects work on them.
Please show me where anything in the show is even remotely implied to be capable of dealing with an Akuma outside of Ladybug or Cataclysm. I'll wait.

>Moreover, for all this kwami-wank generally speaking they don't act without instruction anymore and as users Ladybug and Chat are godawful - as seen in the latest episode where both Hawkmoth and Foo discuss that proper users can avoid miraculous timers and Foo implied there are other things a user can do to improve their kwami performance.
How Ladybug and Chat use them is entirely irrelevant. We've seen what unrestricted Kwami can do, and we've seen the effects of their powers even in restrained form. A gimped Cataclysm courtesy of Chst Noir can destroy whole constructed dimensions. And as you said, he's a shit user.

>Plagg himself is the strongest figure in the show and he can't manage to control his OWN power which is why the kwamis don't act on their own.
Again, control is irrelevant in a fight. Plagg merely *breathing* is enough to create massive fissures, and him tapping buildings causes thrm to distort and warp. By all indications, he causes mss extinction events as a casual effect of being unbound from a Miraculous. Bringing him into the debate ends with him utterly annihilating Randy, control or not.

We also see a Chat who has no timer or limit to his Cataclysm in the form of Chat Blanc. And there, we have even passing angry shots by him bring enough to completely vaporize a significant chunk of the moon. And his reaction to even the mere *idea* that Ladybug didn't care for him anymore? Casually manifest a galaxy-sized Cataclysm packing enough power to delete the entire universe.

The 'limits' of a Miraculous holder come down to mindset, their timer (which can be turned off) and how willing they are to go all out on murdering the fuck out of you.

Good point.
I feel like in a battle of pure strength and versatility Randy has the win, but we also have to factor in the fact that outside of being wily in combat Randy's kinda a fucking idiot.

>The 'limits' of a Miraculous holder come down to mindset, their timer (which can be turned off) and how willing they are to go all out on murdering the fuck out of you
That's bullshit, again refer to the latest episode. It's clearly a matter of technique. Being fused with an Akuma gives you major power ups and affects the nature of your powers which is SPECIFICALLY why Hawk and Natallie work so well together because they both have buff-type powers.