Tell me why lobotomization is not a good solution for mass murderers
Tell me why lobotomization is not a good solution for mass murderers
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Cuz cuz they have no free will if brain get buzz buzz
nothing wrong with that, however its what later becomes of the JL is whats terrifying
You might make the situation even worse.
Who gives a shit if they're mass murderers like the Joker? He's lucky he gets to breath air.
First tell me why you think mass murder is wrong. Are there too few humans or something?
I'm still trying to find a flaw in the JLords society. The rogue's gallery is gone within about a month, and shitposters get gulag'd.
All for the low low cost of a world you never have to worry about being joker gassed or boom tube'd in. Wow, what a shocking price.
What pisses me off is how are afraid that if they kill or lobotomize one hero they'll go on a whirlwind mass murder killing spree as if that's a bad thing. Ok, Sure you dont have to straight up kill the average criminal but the fucking joker? Come on, batman, think about the orphans joker made because you're to selfish to pull a fucking trigger.
I prefer the concept in the animated film of under the red hood, showing that he saved his own sone, instead of "knocking out Jason" but I can see why batman does not kill him, because as much as I love the guy, he is realistically crazy, in a world of superpowered men, living gods, and magic, you can imagine what would happen if the joker was killed
Because it's comics and if you kill the Joker you'll find out you're stuck with shit villains like Professor Pig. So you just end up bringing the Joker back.
So why bother.
Why are the Justice Lords so much better looking than the regular league?
DC should use them a lot more
Fascism looks cooler than Neo-con/lib politics
So does Communism
>they're okay with killing Luthor
>but they only lobotomize the Joker
Kinda weird, but seeing Joker not evil was pretty effective of a scene.
Blame the Gotham judicial system, Batman is not to be the judge, jury and executioner
It's functionally no different from killing them except for the expense of keeping them alive. It's a cowardly way of technically following the no-kill rule even though you may as well have killed them since they're a soulless automaton now.
I won't because you'll lobotomize me.
What I don't understand about the Justice Lords is the ripple effects involved
-A Green Lantern using his ring to brutally police a planet into a police state, and yet the Guardians or other Green Lantern Corp members did nothing? Isn't this what Sinestro was discharged for in the first place?
-Wonder Woman imposing her will on the rest of the planet, pretty sure Themyscira would have SOMETHING to say about this.
-Shouldn't the Thanagarian invasion have happened by the present day of the Justice Lords? What's Hawkgirl's angle in all that?
-Considering the scale of the Justice League during JLU, wouldn't there have been literally legions of other heroes who would have tried to stand up against the Justice Lords? Not even a mention of them.
Came here to say pretty much exactly this.
I think it was the only way to keep batman in the group, and to make superman more realistic as a dictator, being that the guy doesnt ever kill, and at worst he would just send you to the phantom zone
DCAU Joker's bodycount isn't that big. Luthor was about to launch a nuke to fuck with the entire world.
I've thought about that too. Hawkgirl being a traitor might still be kosher but all those other things are probably sacrifices made to make the story work. One of the ways Injustice is superior as a "Evil Justice League" story is that it takes ripples into account.
>-A Green Lantern using his ring to brutally police a planet into a police state, and yet the Guardians or other Green Lantern Corp members did nothing? Isn't this what Sinestro was discharged for in the first place?
Technically we don't know what DCAU Sinestro did to get discharged by the guardians. He always came off like just a petty crook. Also, note that it's an alternate universe, not just an alternate future. Even before they decided they needed to rule the world, they called themselves "Justice Lords".
Isn't Phantom Zone-ing someone a much worse fate than lobotomizing them? It's only one step up from the Inertia treatment if you have no prospect of ever escaping.
But also, Doomsday in that universe was a Superman-like clone that was just programmed to hunt superpowered dudes, right? And you could converse with him and there are innumerable psychic Leaguers like fucking J'onn that could potentially have *deprogrammed* him. Doesn't seem like they bothered with trying anything like that before they jumped right to the Phantom Zone.
They're based on the original designs for the series because Timm thought a uniform look of their costumes would look good but they scrapped it and used it later for the Justice Lords.
It's not a good solution, regular execution of murderers by hanging is the most humane and effective methods to deal with them. The death penalty has always been popular with the majority of people, and it being introduced as a routine and civil method of dealing with criminals in the DC/marvel verse is strange.
Because the writers are american libtards who think every society that punishes criminals is a fascist dystopia where you get gulagd for arguing with a waiter.
What? They look terrible.
I don't know how Flash doesn't think the Inertia treatment won't backfire on him one day.
It's a very strange view, we forbid criminals be executed once found guilty by a jury of peers, with a trial with actual scrutiny and a test of 'beyond reasonable doubt', but these same government that deprive their population of fair retribution routinely kill without trial, via drone strikes, police shootings, ect. Abolishing the death penalty does not prohibit the state from killing-and if anything as the justice system has become less punitive we have seen the increasing authority and militarisation of the police- so it merely removes a safe and regulated procedure that can be held to account, which can rightly determine if someone is deserving of death.
>as the justice system has become less punitive we have seen the increasing authority and militarisation of the police
Not an argument unless you can actually prove the causality.
> a trial with actual scrutiny and a test of 'beyond reasonable doubt'
Yeah, no. Courts are circuses and everyone who has been to one knows that. The rate of false positive convictions is still way too high to comfortably execute people.
No, they just couldn't show the Justice Lords doing truly horrific shit like brutally murdering protestors and stuff like that. They just had to imply the Lords world was fucked up without showing anything really bad for the sake of broadcast regulations.
But by all means suck authoritarian dick, Chang.
>they just couldn't show the Justice Lords doing truly horrific shit like brutally murdering protestors and stuff like that
Here's the thing, kid. You can punish murderers and not brutally murder protestors at the same time. The fact that both you and DCAU writers automatically assume those two always go together only shows how brainwashed you are.
>Chang
Ah, yes, only 2 countries in the entire world. You and them, nobody else.
>unironically calling someone 'kid' in an internet argument while you argue in favour of Fascism
There was 1 scene dedicated to where a guy was taken from a restaurant because he thought the food was shit. Police came and took him away. It could either be implied that it is highly corrupt and businesses do what they want or is at least abused regularly even if you did nothing wrong but with 0 way to prove innocence.
American courts are corrupt stageplays where your overpriced lawyer's showmanship can be the only thing between life and death for you, thank god we don't have capital punishment
>non-lethally punishing insane mass murderers is Fascism
And then you claim to be an adult?
Its a waste of meat we should turn them into onions green instead.
>blaming batman when the jury should have put joker to death
Imagine being batman every time joker breaks out because liberals hate the death penalty.
Man someone here in Canada beheaded someone and ate them ona greyhound bus and was ser free because he was crazy. So I can now understand why the Joker isnt in jail.
Fucking someone should have killed him
But youre a baby how can you even type
I feel like batman doesnt want to kill joker not because he will go mad, but its because it will fuck with his work,
>Batman kills a mass murduring psychopath
>HE HAD RIGHTS
I can never understand why they let these typse of killers live