ITT: comics that are so good they're bad

Kingdom Come does everything Watchmen does, but better- and it has REAL superheroes not shitty pastiche characters.
The fact that you dumbass neckbeards continue to lie to yourselves about this poorly written, abysmally colored shitfest is astounding.

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>abysmally colored
Took it a bit too far 4/10

Reminder that if you think the story is what makes Watchmen good than you didn't understand it.

>washed out Zak Snyder pallet not shit.
Kek.

retard

Kingdom Come is by far the worst of the so-called "great" comics.

I already told you you took it too far and then you drop this garbage?

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>t.salty Rorschach fan
All he said was if you think Rorschach was supposed to be the hero of the story you were a certified brainlet.

Different person responding. Who did Moore say was the hero of the story? I cant think of anyone who would be.
I thought rorschach was supposed to be cool cause he's totally not "the hero," but just some guy with his own code that does things for his own "peace of mind."

>Who did Moore say was the hero of the story?
>Watchmen
>Heroes
The entire point of Watchmen was that was no real hero/villain dichotomy. Not to mention Rorschach fans tend to gloss over all the negative traits he had to the point they basically have Snyder-level understanding of the character. His own code is filled with contradictions and in the end he's just an unhinged psychopath who beats up and kills criminals more for his own benefit rather than the pursuit of justice. Too many people forget that one scene of him just randomly maiming a stranger at a seedy bar who hadn't done anything other than say something negative about him in a fruitless attempt to get a lead because he was completely lost. He has a lot of admirable traits but there's no point in trying to gloss over his warts.

Rorschach was the least worst character though, Moore wrote him that way and he can't pretend like he didn't.

I think the hero of the story is different for every reader and how they think the world "should be." If you're "justice at any cost, A equals A" then yeah, Rorschach makes sense. If you believe in the ends justify the means, then Veidt is the hero. If you just accept the world for "what it is" and roll with it then you probably think the Comedian is a pretty cool guy (even if he later couldn't come to grips with his own philosophy toward the end).

As much as Owl Man gets portrayed as a bonerless loser, he's the closest thing to what Moore would consider a hero. He's a guy that simply wants to help people and live up to a noble ideal, without being a child about it. He's a near perfect balance between the ideals of Rorschach, Comedian, and Ozy. He sees what Ozy did was monstrous, but he also knows that exposing him would just create more death and destruction.

When I was a teenager, I saw Rorschach as this noble martyr, but when I re-read it today he comes off as this little man that can't live without his mask, and this is compared to a fucking fanboy who has a basement of memorabilia.

You can like a character without latching on to them and thinking they're the hero, it's the ultimate brainlet move to unironically think "X character did nothing wrong!"

>make Rosarch as the alt-right hero
>also make him the one that always take the leas of the story, center most of the chapters on him, make the only hero that isn’t a pussy and also make him destroy a psychologist with FACTS AND LOGIC
>Alan wonders why people like him
Is your fucking fault Alan, you were supossed to make him into a lame laughable alt right parody that takes justice way too much seriously, but instead made him into a cool batman clone. Fuck off Alan is your fault for not delivering the message right

Unrelated but i like that scene in which owl told him to fuck off for being a bitch ass nigga and the he apologizes and owl also apologizes and hold hands

You know "X character did nothing wrong!" is just a meme right? Most people who like Rorschach don't think he's perfect, they usually just agree with his decision at the end to reveal the truth.

This is what I mean about Owl being the only person there who's an actual human being, an actual man. Veidt and Manhattan both think they're above humanity and Comedian gave up and became a beast.

Daniel's the only one who was mentally sound enough to stand up for himself, stand for something, and still love, even if he wasn't perfect at any of them.

Let's not pretend the audience's majority opinion is the sole owner of a work's meaning. Literary analysis works from the angles of audience, author, and critic interpretation. If the majority audience opinion is the ultimate decider of meaning, then Fight Club is the ultimate bro movie, when if you look past one layer it never pretends Tyler Durden is anything other than a sociopath with retarded ideas about fixing civilization, especially on second viewing.

Rorschach made some good points and rattled people around him, but Alan Moore gave plenty of "clues" that Rorschach is a broken person. If people don't want to think about that shit and just quote Rorschach lines, that's not Moore's problem, it's theirs.

>exposing him would just create more death and destruction.
Do you also think burning books is good for stability?

As shitty as Doomsday Clock was, Geoff was pretty spot-on with the opening scene to that story. The result of Rorschach getting what he wanted was the world dying in nuclear fire. The original story was about how the world was on the brink of that, and Rorschach didn't care.