How would you write season 3 and 4?
Star vs the forces of evil rewritte
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I wouldn't. Finish Battle for Mewni, have another episode where Star and Marco reminisce about all they've been through and have them visit all their different friends throughout the episode. Near the end they return to Marco's house and get some alone time and get a sentimental moment where they thank each other for everything, finishing off with Marco hurriedly going off because he's late for a date with Jackie, with Star sending him off with a smile. Star breathes a sigh of relief while crashing on the couch, but then her wand triggers and creates a magical note that says "urgent message" from her parents, with Star gasping at the contents. Cut to a scene in that implies Eclipsa's escaped her prison.
There. Nothing conclusive, just don't introduce any of the garbage from anything past that point, just leave things ambiguous enough for viewers to imagine the next adventure for themselves.
By having her win.
I wouldn't, they're perfect
Perfecly Terrible.
for once I agree with Satan
Give Nefcy and Cotugno the boot and manage to convince the S2 director to comeback. Also I’d give Dominic Bisignano sone role in the lore of the show. Also give the writing crew a deadline regarding the show will stay a comedic one-off or a romantic comedy drama.
>Give Nefcy and Cotugno the boot
That would be impossible
>Nefcy, you’re doing such a great job right now with Star. In fact, such a great we’re promoting you and having you moved to help Dana with her show, the Owl House. Also Sabrina Cotugno is coming along to help with writing.
But won’t that keep me away from working on Star?
>Don’t worry Volpe and Bisignano will look after the show. Now do it or you’re fucking fired.
We save Star while letting a lesser show die. Everybody wins.
This is good.
Keep Battle for Mewni.
Have Eclipsa actually be an antagonist. They hyped her up only to blow it by making her completely harmless and revealing she did nothing wrong and was really just a victim. Instead make her a chaotic-good/-neutral revolutionary who disagrees with Mewni's treatment of monsters and wants to fight for their liberation. Her backstory could be more or less the same. She brakes out of prison and quickly befriends Star over their sympathy with monsters. Once Eclipsa gains Star's trust she reveals her plans to wage war against the kingdom and asks Star to join her. Star is shocked and declines, determined to find a diplomatic solution instead, while Eclipsa goes ahead with the plan without her. War breaks out. This could lead to an interesting conflict with Star, who has to reconcile her duty to her kingdom and sympathy with Eclipsa's cause. She acts as a voice of reason, contrasted with the brutality of both Mewni and Eclipsa. Eclipsa's questionable use of violence and dark magic would make her an interesting "villain" of sorts who still has sympathetic motives, while keeping the "Mewni is actually pretty awful" thing they were hinting at way back in season one. To be honest I'm not sure how this would be resolved but I think it's a good start and would make Eclipsa so much more interesting.
I don't care about Meteora, that would need to be drastically rewritten or removed entirely.
Shipping drama is fine, I honestly didn't mind it and thought it was kinda cute.
As for the ending, I honestly think Star destroying all magic could've worked. But Mewni and Earth shouldn't have merged, that was such a cop-out. I don't know how it could be written better, but I'm not against the concept itself, it was just done very poorly.
That's what I managed to come up with on the spot. I missed a few things I can't remember that I can't be bothered to remind myself of, I only really gave thought to Eclipsa's story.
more janna
Have Star give everyone footjobs
This.
>Shipping drama is fine, I honestly didn't mind it and thought it was kinda cute.
The shipping post-movie is half of what killed the show.
The same outcomes but:
- Less shipping drama
- More lore
- More Star Suffering
- Less Marco being a dumbass
I'm genuinely interested, what do you not like about it?
I've done this a lot in a lot of other threads and so at the moment I'm burnt out and braindead. Here's some really rough ideas for 3 and 4 with each season taken individually rather than as one continuing arc, mainly since I'm not really in the mood to think of one coherent story for 38 episodes off the top of my head:
>Season 3
-more Earth episodes, maybe accomplished through Marco staying on Earth. Mewni as the main setting is fine but needs more variety than it got
-more Mewni lore/worldbuilding so that Mewni's interesting too
-NO squire stuff. It ruined Marco and amounted to nothing but padding in the end
-If Tomstar has to happen, maybe done more naturally and with an earlier breakup. Same with Kelco but with the latter part in reverse: maybe it could begin this season and last a bit longer
-OR just have Starco begin in S3. And last! Or it gets set up in S3 a la Booth Buddies or something like it and then happens early in S4 (in S3 they're still confused and working out their feelings but not necessarily dating anyone else)
-more + better Miss Heinous development. Ideally get more into her character and make her breakdown feel more plausible (rather than just 180'ing into "Meteora" because she saw some toys and shit that she should realistically have no memory of) and move away from big manchild smash errthing
-Star is involved more heavily with finding evidence for the Eclipsa trial and just interacting with Eclipsa in general than Moon
tbc
>what do you not like about it?
How it killed Marco’s character growth from the previous seasons, ruined Marco and Star’s friendship dynamic with will-they-won’t-they cliches, how it shoved Tom into the mix despite not offering anything outside of serving as an obstacle to Starco.
>if I could I would go back and remove Star having a crush on Marco to remove the shipping drama bullshit or at the very least write her getting over it and moving on
>have Janna have a bigger role in S3 similar to what they gave her in S4
>no Moon heel turn that was fucking stupid
>no destroying magic that was fucking stupid
>incorporate Ludo back into the main plot instead of giving him an episode a season
>don't kill off Toffee just have him be really fucked up and then reveal more about him and his motivations
>end the show with a massive battle between Star and all of her allies and the Solarian army
>give the MHC a redemption arc instead of just killing them
>no fusing Earth and Mewni because that's stupid
>do more with Kelly
>make Star less of a selfish bitch by the end
>>if I could I would go back and remove Star having a crush on Marco to remove the shipping drama bullshit or at the very least write her getting over it and moving on
Imagine if they pulled a reverse Blood Moon and had Marco say he needs a friend to Star after his first relationships with Jackie tanks.
Isn't cotugno working on the owl house?
>Interlude: Stuff I Like That May Not Necessarily Work
-Heinous/Meteora gets killed in the S3 finale, for the good of the kingdom or just the world in general. For some reason people act like Eclipsa "killing" her (psych!) was some tremendous act of self-sacrifice that she shouldn't have done (temporarily disregarding the fact that according to Nefcy she planned to turn her into a baby all along) when, if my kid I haven't seen in years was a crazed retarded murderer who could potentially kill me, I'd take them down if I had the means too. That's a derail, but what I'm saying is: actually do it and don't cheap out. Leave Eclipsa knowing she did the right thing but now left in a bad emotional place and more desperate than ever for Globgor to be freed. Or, better yet, STAR BUTTERFLY, THE ACTUAL MAIN CHARACTER OF THE SHOW kills her
-This isn't meant to go along with the above, just an alternate idea: Eclipsa is evil, or at least dangerous/someone you shouldn't put your trust in. All her buildup had a purpose. Tragic backstory or just a bitch? Could go either way; perhaps if Meteora is killed it ends up being the final straw for her to turn against Mewni. How does Globgor fit into this? He's actually good-- not necessarily the way the show ended up doing it though-- and the TWIST is that the supposed evil monster warlord who corrupted the queen was a good or at least not-evil guy who was tragically manipulated by a Mewman all along
>S3 Thing I Forgot
-Festivia = Eclipsa's first daughter with Shastacan. Eclipsa left either in pursuit of her own goals or was forced off the throne, and/or Shastacan was just a super dick. This removes the weird focus on bloodline in the Racism Bad show AND makes Star choosing to give up the crown, if this still happens, nobler: it's not because she feels she's a peasant and Eclipsa's blood is purer, but a more direct version of what I think they were actually going for, that she feels Eclipsa deserves it more
tbc
She was working on it but left. We can only assume it’s because she was up to no good again.
Either Eclipsa or Globgor or both are evil and are the big bad. Star doesn't go for Tom so we don't get all this stupid will they or won't they crap dragging on. Marco has power and gets corrupted maybe joining Eclipsa with his resurrected monster arm. I dunno I'm spitballing but it couldn't be worse than what we got.
Considering she made Jackie a lesbian for no reason offscreen (There is a fanfic that pairs her with Kelly but it gives them time to develop)¿What is she working on?
>¿What is she working on?
Something about a lesbian knight who can’t score. Think Johnny Bravo except he’s a dyke.
Is it a series or a webcomic?
Also the whole appeal of Johnny Bravo is seeing an attractive guy that can't get a date because he belives looks are everything but is a pretty kindhearted individual vith no mean intentions otherwise.
>Season 4
-This one's simpler, mainly because I think even if everything in S3 still happened exactly the same way, S4/the series could've still been good if the show had gone this path: Eclipsa has the wand, and her motives are still questionable. Star has the throne, but a ruined kingdom and the distrust of the Mewmans. Moon is still trapped in an unknown location. Star has to work through all the above shit while also leading the kingdom completely alone, and trying to fit in more personal interests like wanting to be an ordinary teen and finding love etc. The ultimate endpoint of destroying magic and the dimensions smashed together could maybe also be the same. I like the idea I've seen of Eclipsa-as-villain being powerful enough that destroying magic altogether is what must be done to stop her, which was sort of what they were going for with the Solarians but not explored as much as it could have for the magic destruction to feel plausible
-Mina is a pretty great character, or at least concept. Racism plot pretty much requires a Mewman villain. Use her and make her more of a threat, ex. when it's suddenly all-out war her Solarian brainwashing kicks in fully and so she can be played as more serious. Don't downplay Solaria's involvement in making her what she is and/or whitewashing her because FAMLY. Push Mina's tragedy harder, maybe, or leave a chance for redemption: ex. if Solaria does leave her to die, she's shown questioning things by the series' end, even if she's not gonna automatically turn to the good side
-more monster presence in the seasons about monsters. Half-monsters are fine too but shouldn't be receiving more focus over the actual monsters
-The show is about Star. The plot of the final season should definitely be about Star. The heaviest focus should be on Star's struggles to rule (and ultimate decision to give up the entire monarchy in the end); not standing aside and doing everything for Eclipsa
that's about it
Not him but there was too much focus on that theme. That meant less time for stupid SOL episodes or more politics and conspiracy episodes that were pretty needed in those seasons for character building. Also, that made a more or less savvy character like Marco a lot more dumb. Ok it was realistic, but he was made seem more dumb than inexperienced.
>Is it a series or a webcomic?
Sorry but I don’t know, that description is all I could get from the time it was shared here.
Good lads
>ever entering into the monster apologist story line to begin with
If you wanted the Mina character mostly unchanged what you could do was have monster kind respond with concern at the death of Toffee and start unifying properly.
Make Ludo's dad less of a fucking loser, keep the worst kid dynamic and the relationship with his brother. Have septarians join up with the mutt monsters and start causing trouble - you can still have the pidgeon and spider bite episodes mostly unmolested have Eclipsa as EVIL as she was intended to be initially. Lean on her inability to feel for others but only for herself. Her torturing the MHC and making unethical magic is canon even in the actual post s2. Keep her a little sympathetic because she does love who she loves but she operates like a psycho.
Have the Mina/Moon/Star thing happen more or less the same. Have star sympathetic because of Buff Frog and the alt monsters but not race-traitor tier.
Have all the evil characters get killed (Eclipsa Globgor, let the kid survive) along with a lot of good ones, mina and Moon. Have Star be Queen of the wreckage and instate official territory to the monsters and recognise them as a people but make it a murky last ditch thing. There's a lot of good favour between them but they're also too different and too bitter to be on good terms.
Change Marco's entire cucked out plot and make him actually man up and get into the war a bit. Let him be a real knight instead of Star's bitch.
Let him be the safe kid not wanting Star to covort with the alt monsters and deescalate things because he's noided about her getting attacked.
Let him be the foil as he was meant to be
Time freezes at the last frame of Cleaved, Glossaryck reveals himself to not be dead, tells Star her final phase of training is just about complete, and the only thing left for her to do is push the Wheel of Time backwards, to the day it all began, Star gets mad because she's going to lose what little she has left and her choices have no meaning, eventually realizing her choices will collapse the very fabric of the universe itself, has to struggle with Destiny versus Free Will and the necessity of self-sacrifice
"Don't think this is the first time I've done this, Star" looking at Skywynne's Tapestry
And so begins Season 5
I like retarded endings. Please explain a bit more there matey.
if i'm honest i think the unaired angry beavers finale still made more sense than cleaved. Probably because it was a great show.
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