How old were you when you realised Batman's no killing rule is objectively wrong?

How old were you when you realised Batman's no killing rule is objectively wrong?

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How old were you when you realized threads like these should be an automatic ban.

When I turned 14.
I got over it when I turned 20.

How old were you when you realized this is the most beat dead horse in all of comics debate?
He doesn't kill so they can sell more comics with popular villains. The end.

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>objectively
What a child

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When I realized that your parents are still alive, because having you was a fucking crime.

Killing is wrong. They should suffer

Kill slowly with torture. Everyone is happy.

You can't blame Gothams non-use of capitol punishment on Batman. It's up to the courts and cops, after Batman throws him at their doorstep, to kill the Joker. Really it's just bad writing. Batman doesn't have to break his code or not have one for Joker to get what he deserves.

It's actually completely reasonable for a vigilante to try to build goodwill by showing he's not trying to replace the system of government, but only supplement it by helping catch criminals to be processed by the system. The problem is the system has shown meaningful ability to reform only in specific closed-off continuities, like the Nolanverse, where the series ends on the note that Gotham supposedly has a brighter future. Gotham otherwise stays corrupt, which is the real issue. One more murderer on the streets wouldn't fix this. And no, snarky reaction image makers, one more murderer reducing the number of murderers on the street unlawfully wouldn't fix it either.
>You can't blame Gothams non-use of capitol punishment on Batman.
Gotham doesn't even determine whether capital punishment is used, that's done at the state level. Joker was about to get the chair one time, and the Governor's office called to let him off because he was ironically innocent of the crime he was convicted of. The real problem seems to be happening in the courts. Joker rampantly witness-tampers to usually avoid real consequences, he's able to use an insanity plea that generally shouldn't apply to him, there seem to be corrupt judges everywhere. The tactics Batman uses are basically ineffective at reforming any of this.

> I can make small number nines appear at the bottom of the page

i like the idea that he's just afraid to find out he might enjoy it and everything else is self-righteous posturing

he probably has a hard time suppressing feelings of glee just beating up criminals

>police are incompetent or corrupt and cannot arrest criminals effectively
better go be batman and arrest them myself
>legal system is incompetent or corrupt and cannot properly sentence or incarcerate criminals
w-well it's not my responsibility

In my teens when I got into comics. Its understandable if Batman refuses to kill the villains. But its ridiculous that Batman would go out of his way to save a mass murdering/serial killing villain.

Yeah, I don't understand that line of reasoning when people say it's not Batman's job to kill criminals, despite the fact that every situation he finds them in, it's perfectly legal to use lethal force to defend himself and the lives of others, yet completely gloss over the fact that it's not his fucking job to be a vigilante either. You're already subverting the law and the authorities, at least be effective about it.

Batman's physical strength could be more lethal than just shooting people if he wanted to, but he only fixates on guns because he's got a raging phobia he refuses to get over despite spending all his life training to get over fear and control himself. It's just ideology and politics.

Never, and before someone says joker has killed thousands I agree that he should be killed but it's the government's fault for not executing his ass 50 years ago.

>I don't understand that line of reasoning when people say it's not Batman's job to kill criminals
Because it's literally not his job
>despite the fact that every situation he finds them in, it's perfectly legal to use lethal force to defend himself and the lives of others
If you completely ignore who Bruce is as a character, sure.
>yet completely gloss over the fact that it's not his fucking job to be a vigilante either
It is
>You're already subverting the law and the authorities, at least be effective about it.
He works WITH the law and the authorities.

You mean DC for refusing to kill the Joker because creating new villains is hard!

Actually they did execute the Joker in IIRC, his second appearance. It's just that unlike Penny Plunderer, he came back.

I mean if it fails once try try again.

The no kill rule worked when the worst thing Joker did was cripple a college student and tried to mind fuck the commissioner and even then that was enough for Batman to start doubting that rule.

It becomes stupid when writers now try to outdo each other on edginess and Joker no longer can just be a deranged criminal who puts people in danger but a full blown mass murder with a body count reaching the hundreds, possibly thousand mark.

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joker's "holy shit he fucking did it" face in the top right panel always gets me

I never understand why Batman gets the blame when the actual answer is to blame "Society"
Like if it's deemed "necessary" to kill the Joker or the Scarecrow or whoever why does it fall on the shoulders of Batman and not the courts who can and have used that power before?

Batman IS society. That's why the Joker is his enemy.

Edgy

Truly a deep commentary about that thing we live in.

Batman should rape every criminal he encounters! Gotham will be a safe haven if he would

>He works WITH the law and the authorities.

And I'm sure that's a great comfort to the families of all the people the Joker kills every time he breaks out of Arkham.

Like it's been said a billion fucking times, it's the fault of the justice system for not killing Joker after Batman takes him in.

Why is that Batman's fault and not the fault of the courts and police for not executing him? I feel it would be a little different if instead of Arkham he was breaking out it was the electric chair or something