Carol and Wanda are merely touched by the power of an Infinity Stone and they're the two most powerful Avengers aside...

>Carol and Wanda are merely touched by the power of an Infinity Stone and they're the two most powerful Avengers aside from possibly Thor and Doctor Strange
>Vision is literally a living Infinity Stone and he gets consistently bitchslapped by a henchman with a stick
Why did the Russos hate Vision? Sure, he had to die eventually in order for Thanos' plan to succeed, but him getting taken down should've been a Herculean task, a total shock moment. "Thanos just took out one of our biggest guns," etc. Instead he was just kind of "one of the guys" in Civil War and then a total damsel in distress in Infinity War.

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Wanda is imbued with demonic magic, the mind stone merely enabled her to harness that power by augmenting her mind.

Vision did not fully understand the mind stone, and IMHO his ability to feel emotions was the result of Wanda touching the cradle and putting her emotion fueled magic in the mind stone when she touched the cradle in AoU.

The Russo's don't seem to like using super duper characters much. They favour the normie punchy guys. Vision was always a plot device to them, alas.
They might have gone for him being Tony's surrogate son, but then Spiderman came long so Vision lost that relationship.

But you can look at Vision being crippled and vulnerable as part of his arc of becoming less godlike and more human (while Wanda becomes more godlike and less human).

He was too powerful for the story they were telling in Civil War, so on the mission to stop Crossbones, they don't have Vision and War Machine in reserve for no explained reason.
It's ambiguous, and probably intentionally so, whether he was powerless against Wanda turning his powers against him, or if he could have resisted, but just won't fight her. At the airport battle they explained his inaction as him not wanting to fight his friends, but it really needed a line in the movie to get this across.

Infinity War saw a lot of the Avengers getting small roles in their own movie because most of the MCU heroes all had a role here, and the bigger names tended to get bigger roles. Iron Man, Strange, Spider-Man and the Guardians got the big battle with Thanos, while the Avengers on Earth were stuck fighting his henchmen. Vision and Wanda were both too powerful for the story they wanted to tell, so Vision gets badly injured early on, and Wanda is written to be as powerful as a scene needs her to be, they get overpowered by villains who are then defeated by Cap, Falcon and Black Widow, which makes no sense at all.
They just didn't know what to do with him, and because of that, normies and casuals think he's the worst Avenger.

Also, the narrative required Thanos to steal the Mind Stone, but it didn't require Vision to die. Infinity War has enough time spent on characters discussing if Vision could survive without the Stone, and what he'd be without it, that just killing him and leaving him dead was the most boring and least interesting choice they could have made. People thought they were going to rebuild him in Endgame for a version of the White Vision story in the comics, but instead the Avengers who survive the snap never even mention him.

We still don't even know if they're going to actually bring him back in WandaVision or not.

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>Carol and Wanda are merely touched by the power of an Infinity Stone and they're the two most powerful Avengers aside from possibly Thor and Doctor Strange

Strange and Carol aren't Avengers.

>They might have gone for him being Tony's surrogate son, but then Spiderman came long so Vision lost that relationship.
Imagine the things we lost out on. Imagine a timeline where Spider-Man doesn't get added to the MCU in Phase 3, where Carol is held back to Phase 4 rather than being introduced right before the end of the Infinity Stones saga, and where Fox don't sell, so Disney don't try to awkwardly insert the concept of mutants into the MCU after 15 years.

There just wasn't enough time in the movies to give him proper character growth and to best establish their relationships. Arguably, Disney+ is the best platform for this kind of storytelling, and I think Feige knows it. The narrativescape is uncompressed, characters can be fleshed out, story points have room to breathe, all things that modern directors seem to have problems with in 90 minute+ movies. And with more room, they should be able to give Vision and Wanda threats more scaled to their power levels. Assuming they're able to have all the right developmental elements in place.

>instead the Avengers who survive the snap never even mention him.
I actually said "THANK YOU" out loud (well, whispered to my friend who was sitting right next to me) when I saw him acknowledged in the memorial video in Far From Home.

Oh, shush, you know what I meant. Besides, wouldn't she technically be the first Avenger? The team's named after her.

>so Disney don't try to awkwardly insert the concept of mutants into the MCU after 15 years.

>Professor, you've essentially brainwashed the entire planet to conceal a shadow war being waged between mutants this whole time?
>...Yea?

AVX, coming soon to a theater near you!

>Oh, shush, you know what I meant. Besides, wouldn't she technically be the first Avenger? The team's named after her.

BOOOO!!! I want a retcon in Ant-Man 3 that shows Avenger to be the name of Janet's dog.

Fans of Vision and of Wanda should be able to eagerly anticipate a 6 episode series giving them the spotlight, developing their characters and fleshing out their history, exploring their powers, and introducing some of their comics lore.

Instead we have to worry that Vision won't be real, that Wanda will go insane so they can adapt a story her fans hate, or that the whole show exists just to introduce their children, as a step towards a future Young Avengers show or movie.

I'm just looking forward to seeing Lizzie in one of Wanda's comics outfits. Even if it's just for a scene or two, I'll still consider her a good sport.

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I think he will be back in WandaVision, but only fully Vision in the sitcom pocket dimension.

>Strange and Carol aren't Avengers
Anyone who was present at the final battle in Endgame became an Avenger the instant Cap said "Avengers, assemble!" and Carol counts as one since the team was named after her. At this point the only characters who aren't Avengers are basically Loki, Heimdall, Sif, and Yondu.

>Instead he was just kind of "one of the guys" in Civil War
Civil War has the perfect excuse of him being too powerful and untested to just take into the field. When the SWAT team is called in, they don't breach with a fucking nuke.
The one time he's told to try and use his powers to take someone down, he cripples Rhodey.

That is probably just going to be for a Halloween episode or something, but hopefully it inspires a new costume for her.

>Even if it's just for a scene or two, I'll still consider her a good sport.
Just a scene or two in the show, but imagine if they let her keep it for personal use.

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>but hopefully it inspires a new costume for her.
I actually really dig her corset and coat look. And wouldn't mind if she keeps it either. But a few upgrades wouldn't hurt either.

>Just a scene or two in the show, but imagine if they let her keep it for personal use.
If she's on a talkshow and lets slip that it's in her closet, I might squee.

Imagine acting in superhero movies and NOT roleplaying your character for sexytimes. You just know they're all doing that.

Vision doesn't have vagina powers.

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If my girlfriend is playing Supergirl, of course I'd want to fuck Supergirl. Who wouldn't?

Also this shot

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Vision had the Mind stone. He didn't Mind getting weaker.

>Anyone who was present at the final battle in Endgame became an Avenger the instant Cap said "Avengers, assemble!"
No it doesn't. The avengers consists of a team of specifically appointed individuals. Not a bunch of people who happened to show up for a battle.

>Carol counts as one since the team was named after her.
An asspull like that doesn't make her one. It wouldn't make anyone one. Until she, or anyone else, is officially appointed as a member of the team, nobody, as of the end of Endgame; counts except for Banner, Falcon, Wanda, Rhodes and Thor.

Hawkeye is debatable if he's finally retired full-time or not.

I'm pretty sure the show is about her discovering her origins and how powerful she really is, and she'll officially take the mantle of Scarlet Witch, and the crown thing will be part of her costume for now on until she dies in Doctor Strange 2

>Not a bunch of people who happened to show up for a battle.
On the one hand, it would be funny to have a random bunch of wizards in the next Doctor Strange movie brag about being Avengers. On the other, the Avengers have always been a family. Sure, they were brought together by Fury initially, and even paid for by Stark, but they stuck together up until their schism. And even then, they still had each others back when the chips were down.

>Wanda is written to be as powerful as a scene needs her to be, they get overpowered by villains who are then defeated by Cap, Falcon and Black Widow, which makes no sense at all.

I don't get into the power levels bullshit and am generally pretty forgiving, but that REALLY pissed me off and I'm glad you called it out.

Russos are a bunch of hacks that let the success of Winter Soldier get to their heads.

It was bullshit, especially the spear being able to magically disrupt vision. But I figured they were pressed for runtime, and Wanda being hobbled with a need to protect vision, and her relative inexperience compared to the other Avengers, I was able to give it pass.