>Can't maintain a decent comic industry even with multi-billion film/tv and merchandise spin-offs being the most mainstream thing ever and god knows how much advertising
What exactly went SO WRONG?
>Can't maintain a decent comic industry even with multi-billion film/tv and merchandise spin-offs being the most mainstream thing ever and god knows how much advertising
What exactly went SO WRONG?
>Inb4 Zig Forums comes screaming
Who can’t?
Because comics are for nerds, and movies aren't.
The minimum wage failed to increase at the same rate as inflation meaning each year more people gave less spare cash to spend on luxury goods and buying a comic on the way home from school or work required you to decide if you were really willing to give up three hour's wages for something that'll take ten minutes to read.
Industries are failling accross the board because of the absurdly high percentage of people stuck living paycheck to paycheck that can't find a better paying job anywhere
>restricting comic book sales to LCS instead of also selling them at superstores, gas station convenience stores, and book stores (compare this to manga, which is far more accessible and available to read)
>not making comic books more digital friendly (compare DC/Marvel to Viz, for example)
>instead adapting comic books to promote the source material, its become the other way around—comic book characters change to match the DCEU/MCU (compare this to anime, where even if an anime "flops," if it raises manga sales, then it's acceptable)
>DC/Marvel/Diamond's refusal to switch to cheaper paper and ink, leading to higher prices ($12-25 dollars for a Batman volume vs. $5-8 for a manga volume)
>DC/Marvel forcing you to read comics outside the one you want (i.e. having to read Justice League #XX AND Superman #YY in order to understand what's going on in Green Lantern #ZZ)
>capeshit in general has a difficult barrier of entry for newcomers, because literally every superhero has over 5 different origin stories and over 20 writers each with their own interpretation of that character
>comic books in general are seen by western society as childish, a belief that is not helped by the movies which often lampoon and make fun of the source material
It would unironically take the complete and utter destruction of the industry (especially the Diamond monopoly) and rebuilding it from the ground up in order to fix these problems.
Turns out that if you make shit that sucks, you can still fail no matter how hard you push it.
I think it’s this. Life’s too expensive these days. Entertainments not essential. It’s why I pirate pretty much everything I watch, play or read.
You've misunderstood, there is no can't it's won't, an user many years ago said it best that the second the toys, movies, shows and video games became less costly or more profitable comics were maintained mostly as stealth IP farms and adverts, not priorities. Ask McFarlane and Millar.
But there is little profit to be made pushing out a 20 something page floppy monthly when people already know your property through brand recognition.
The only sort of exception where a comic's value exceeds other formats is in speculator market scenarios where through rarity shenanigans something becomes worth more than any other easier reproduced media, and even then that's not usually a direct profit to the publisher more so collectors.
Yeah, in terms of making wage slaving more psychologically bearable, alchohol and some flour+eggs+milk is a better investment of a spare twenty bucks for the weekend
It's not just expensive, these fuckers make a new subscription service for every single little thing which they expect you to pay for just to watch one or two shows.
I cannot feel even a tinge of guilt at pirating something from hulu or netflix. You just want to see one or two things yet you have to pay a price as if you have all the 24 hours of the day just to watch shit online.
Maybe if you could pay a nominal fee to see one series and leave it at that, I'd be tempted. But I know that there's fuck-all I want to watch on any of these services except once in a blue moon and that does not justify the price tag(s) of twenty different streaming providers.
You would think more competition is a good thing, but since every single service shows something different there IS no competition. Just a fragmented market where every show that looks a little interesting ends up on yet another subscription service you'd have to pay for in addition to however many you already have.
It's fucking bonkers.
>The minimum wage failed to increase at the same rate as inflation
>Not any mention of the raise of taxes.
Where the fuck are you working where you make $1.33 an hour?
Rwanda
My old job used to pay 8$ for minimum wage an hr. This year it went up to 11$ an hr.
Movie goers aren't comic readers. Comics in the US have been stigmatized and niche just by the marketing and distribution methods. The industry has fucked itself for decades.
They’re lower for the obscenely wealthy and higher for the crumbling middle class and many strata of lower income workers down to the slight amount of relied on the working poor?
That the stagnation of wages for low and middle income compared to the astronomical standard changes in executive compensation is an issue and profits are going to malignant upper echelon bonuses, stock buyback, and seeing a focus on pumping numbers for investor dividends over the actual long term functionality or stability of companies? If left unseen, the Invisible Hand of the Market will choke itself to the whims and wants of today’s would be robber barons. Capitalism needs regulation, oversight, and stricter standards than the personal morals of its participants to continue to be stable.
Because thousands of capeshit movies being spammed does shit for the characters. They'll be forgotten in a while. Back when we had a few adaptations, it used to mean something. Burton's Batman being a hit got the character rolling. Now Ant-Man and Captain Marvel are stars only for a week and audience will soon forget about them for other movies in a sea of capeshit.
I get 5.22 an hour an a comic costs 15.99 here
>he thinks normies would actually read comic books
face it, comic books are still seen as geeky and lame, movies along with shows are easier to watch, and don't require having years of knowledge to appreciate or even understand.
>Replies to a post mentioning the rise of taxes to the, obviously, people who suffer from it.
>Proceeds to rant about "muh rich" with outdated complains.
Git gud, economic incel.
It feels like big companies are producing more content than could ever be consumed in a human lifetime, full-well knowing that some of it won't even be seen by anyone. And I cannot phantom why this is.
Is it money laundering of some kind, or are the different entertainment industries simply at the point where they have gotten into the habit of throwing billions in every direction hoping something sticks enough to make up the deficit?
It doesn't seem like a sensible thing to completely oversaturate the market with capeshit leaving people no room at all to breathe between them. If you go to see a superhero film there'll be a trailer for the next one before the one you're about to watch. It's grotesque.
Surely people must eventually grow tired of empty, brain-dead formulaic filler and simply stop paying for it. There's already Star Wars fatigue due to the way Disney has kneecapped and raped the franchise repeatedly. Most of my friends loved Star Wars when we were young, I know only of one who saw the last one they just made and he had nothing positive to say. His reasoning was that he saw the rest so "if he didn't see this he'd have wasted his money watching 2/3's"
>they have gotten into the habit of throwing billions in every direction hoping something sticks enough to make up the deficit?
This is more or less the way it is, and they have been doubling on it for the last 5 years or so. They are basically aping the mobile game market method 1:1, and ignoring the lessons learned from there.
>Rent Free
I dont believe you user, isnt the federal minimum like 7/8?
The average floppy is $2.99-$3.99, i.e. about the same (or less) as your morning Starbucks', so this is clearly absurd. The real answer is that comics have become incestuous and impenetrable to the average layman due to retreating into specialized LCSs which intimidate many newcomers, and that floppies don't offer a good jumping-on point. It's no accident that stand-alone trades continue to perform & that DC has been moving more and more in that direction.
Entertainment has literally never been cheaper to access than right now. For like $10/month you can access literally tens of thousands of hours of streaming content.
According to Zig Forums damage control nothing, sales are better now than in the 2000's.
Of course that doesn't explain why in the 2000's Hourman and Orion could get 25 issue solos or why after the 2000's comics where constantly relaunched to boast sales.
Everything's fine Sir no problem at all
>as your morning Starbucks
If you cry about money problems yet spend money on overpriced sugary shit coffee then you deserve to live in constant financial panic and one bill away from death.
If you're talking about comics, aren't they producing the same amount of content that they've since the 90s. Back in the 90s, you had four Superman, Batman and Spidey titles for each, and even some D-Z listers went for 30-60 issues. Now even Swamp Thing can't handle an ongoing.
They tried cutting down the titles by a lot with Rebirth, and even that wasn't a hit.
Did the Summer of George start already? I haven't even prepared all my mediocre brownies!
>why in the 2000's Hourman and Orion could get 25 issue solos
People stopped caring about good writing and art. All that adaptations promoted was IP consumers. These are the only people who read comics nowadays. People only want to read their Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and X-Men. They don't want to read good stories or enjoy good art. Anyone who wants to read something good has left long ago.