Should I try this run? Is it any good? Be honest.
Should I try this run? Is it any good? Be honest
no
yes
maybe
can you repeat the question?
Kyle sucks
Haven't read it
well, how is this?
Only if you're fine knowing that afterwards Kyle becomes irrelevant and constantly put in Hal's shadow. Which is where he belongs.
I just want a classic GL stuff pre-Johns
Their is none it’s why Johns run is regarded as one the best and getting the franchise in the leagues of Batman and Superman at best your can say the some of the Gardner Fox or Englehart or Moore stories are decent but nothing really special.
Read it, 90s GL is pretty damn fun.
GLC Quarterly in particular is 90s kino. It introduces Laira, and has some cool sci-fi concepts like a Green Lantern kelp dude.
The villains are a little weak, but the rest is good.
If Moore was nothing special, why did Johns steal so much from him? Mogo is still relevant while all of Johns' characters have been forgotten.
Kyle > Hal
Only if you are immune to old comics. I like Kyle and his origin story, but his run was fucking too old to me
I didn’t say Moore wa ad I like the Mogo story but it’s just one issue I just don’t think gl has a good run until Johns came along.
>Their is none
wrong
>why did Johns steal so much from him?
>steal
What a thing to say regarding Moore's work.
I keep hearing this all the time, what exactly did Johns steal?
In general, Kyle's run as Green Lantern is passable until Donna leaves (#89), with the sole exception being the super desperate sales stunt that was Emerald Knights (#100-106).
Once Byrne yanks Donna from the book to rape her, it goes downhill ASAP (Hal guest spot aside). The editor was a HUGE Jade fanboy and forced Marz to make her Kyle's new GF and shilled her HARD as Kyle's one true love and even made her the very first back-up GL to further push her down peoples throats.
From there there is the Winnick run, which killed sales so badly that they had to bring Hal back (but not before having to run two filler runs by Ben Raab and Marz, the later of which had Marz take a piss on critics who complained about Marz's death by having Major Force trick Kyle into thinking he chopped up/dismembered Kyle's mom and put her in the fridge).
Better than his Green Lantern run; though the first 9-10 issues are Infinity Gauntlet tie-ins that are of varying quality (plus one issue that is simply there to undo the ending of Englehart's run, which had him shit on Tom DeFalco replacing Jim Shooter by having a fat slug alien take over the Kree Empire, so that Bob Harras could have the Kree military back in charge in time for Operation Galactic Storm).
Sadly his best story (The Herald Ordeal) hasn't been reprinted yet.
But his run on Surfer's really good as he treats Silver Surfer as DBZ and beefed up Surfer's rogue gallery
It starts out pretty good. But how whole
>I'm still new, I don't think I can do this, I'm scsaed of being a hero
thing drags on way too long. It was his main personality for like 7 years. I get it for the first years or so but he remained the scared rookie guy for too damn long.
In 1987, Alan Moore wrote a one-off story for that year's Green Lantern Corps Annual; called "Tygers".
It was a one-off tale story that introduced a TON of concepts and character concepts that Johns mined for his Green Lantern run. In particular, Red Lantern founder Atrocius's running crew was the Empire of Tears, who were revealed to be the survivors of worlds that were genocided by the Manhunters and Krona (who's crimes in doing so were covered up by the Guardians so that no one would blame them for what Krona did/allow them to launch the Green Lantern Corps without alien races to tell them to fuck off given how their last police group killed billions of innocent people). The story also introduced (in a vision) Sodam Yats, the Children of the Lobe, and a bunch of minor henchmen of the Anti-Monitor who were featured in the Green Lantern Corps issues of the Sinestro Corps War. Along with being where the phrase "The Blackest Night" came from in terms of being first spoken.
Alan Moore fans were LIVID that Johns dared mine storyline ideas from Tygers, as far as Moore fans believing that the story and the concepts/ideas in it SHOULD NEVER EVER EVER be referenced in future stories; while ignoring the fact that the only reason no one touched it, was the fact that the artist of the story (Kevin O'Neill) drew the Empire of the Sun folks in such a disturbing fashion, that DC had to release the annual sans Comic Code and that even Johns himself, had to kill off the Empire of the Sun members featured in the story due to their disturbing visuals in favor of the more traditional and non-nightmare fuel visually designed Atrocius.
I thought it was more about how Moore bitched and moaned about it, then his fans jumped on board and complained too.
He is right, you know.
>Johns references a past storyline
>"stealing"
Moore is such a fucking baby.
Moore and his fans bitched but it came out that the issue was non-CCA because of the Moore/ONeil story and that was why no one did a follow up until Johns. Moore and his crew seriously thought that the story and it's threads were embargoed because MAH MOORE, while ignoring that DC tended to gladly let people follow up on Moore's stuff and that Tygers was never much touched BECAUSE no one wanted to touch O'Neil's vagina with teeth faced alien designs and why John, when he started mining the concept, made a huge point of kill off the offending ONeil designed characters and replace them with more marketable and less body horror designs.
Yeah, but he referenced only Moore stuff. Johns completely ignored Spectre run, Marz stuff and so on and so on.
user, who do you think was responsible for turning Hal into the Spectre?
>didn't reference Spectre
There's a whole arc about Hal coming back after being dead.
I am talking about Hal's adventures as Spectre with his niece. Even Morrison made a reference to DeMatteis run, but Johns completely retconned it.