Is the popularity of Rick and Morty among normies dying?
On the basis of IMDB it looks like S4 is really underwhelming people.
Is the popularity of Rick and Morty among normies dying?
Joshua Lopez
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Julian Ramirez
Having such a massive gap mid season killed the hype.
Colton Hughes
No, not really. It's still incredibly popular among regular people.
Elijah Bell
People are distracted, and apparently the advertising wasn’t great for people who don’t watch actual TV or use Twitter (my brother is a casual fan, kind of person who’s seen every episode but doesn’t follow cartoon news or discuss online, and he didn’t know about it until I told him a week later).
Also have seen lots of negative reactions to the premiere from normies, saying shit like “evil Morty was the only cool part”. You’d think only autist lorefags would care about the drama and reveals in a silly cartoon with a character named Mr. Poopybutthole, but it seems like a surprising number of the sort of people who buy R&M Funko pops and snapback hats took that stuff seriously (and the satirical elements also probably went over their heads).
There is also the factor to consider that TV is dead and many have become so spoiled by streaming services that they no longer know how to pirate, or are too lazy to bother. A lot of people probably won’t see it until it hits HBO Max
Jason Young
after the video with the nigger jumping on the counter at mcdonalds for szechuan sauce went viral, people stopped associating with the fandom, and to a bigger extent watching the show. they realized how ricky and mort wasn't the niche edgy cartoon for hipsters anymore and switched to bojack horseman.
Luis Walker
They successfully established merchandise franchise.
Episodes no longer have to be any good any more.
Just like the Simpsons.
Connor Smith
It's going to continue to be popular with LCD type people just looking for something to veg out to, but it's too popular to be "counter-culture" or whatever now so it's going to fall off and become resented by the obsessive types.
It's gonna be the new Family Guy essentially, [as] is counting on that, the episode order is huge so they can stick it in the LCD slot every night forever when they lose the fox shows and it can foot the bill for weird, experimental [as] without having to re-up a contract every couple years.
Logan Clark
They definitely should have figured out by now that more half-hour sitcom-ish shows to put in primetime is the way to making bank, and it’s interesting to think that they probably never would had attempted making their own in the first place if Harmon’s name hadn’t been attached to R&M. It arrived at a pretty perfect time for them, but it doesn’t feel like it was planned out at all. Disney’s purchase of Fox and [as]’s inability afterwards to secure the same contracts should have put the nail in the coffin for the network a few years down the road, but because Community was cancelled and they decided to take a risk on the guy’s next project [as] is now beating actual CN in the ratings almost every single day.
I just wonder if Williams Street will get the budget it logically should be receiving based on those stats (seeing as they always have struggled compared to CN proper, though their shows often don’t get the same sort of international deals) and the opportunity to develop stuff for HBO Max, or if they’ll be ignored by the current management as a weird group of renegades out in Atlanta and one of the few remaining vestiges of Turner to retain a degree of separation
Logan Price
They fucking tried doing half-hours twice with China, IL and Metalocalypse and both times failed to do much for ratings. I remember they were pushing China, IL HARD especially.
Mason Perry
I just don't think they had ever fathomed it even being possible that one of their in-house shows could reach the degree of popularity that R&M has and I don't even blame them for chasing it. Timing is definitely good, and honestly if it secures [as]'s future to keep doing their weird shit, cool. Get a hundred episodes out of the thing and ride the horse into the ground.
Nathan Walker
I didn't even occur to me, but you're for sure right, China, IL was their first big swing at getting a 100+ episode LCD show in house and it hit the wall fast sadly.
Nolan Kelly
>100x downloads vs any other tv animated show
>competes with shit like trolls world tour
Anyone who thinks it's not super popular is delusional and coping heavily.
Ryan Green
Metalocalypse wasn't a 30 min show tho. Did they have some 30 min specials maybe?
Kevin Anderson
It’s the weird phenomenon that if something is mainstream popular it can be massive but just not in the ways the dorks here typically measure it. There isn’t a R&M general or waifu posting threads day after day so in some ways the presence feels like less than the shows that do, even though there’s probably a million 35-50 year olds who made a habit of tuning into the Family Guy rerun timeslot who watch the show and not any of the shit Zig Forums obsesses over
Nolan Bell
Don't mind me, just the mandatory "why do you care" reply
Aaron Martinez
This is it 100%. People on Zig Forums think it's "not popular" and people are "turning on it" because the types of people who go online to talk about cartoons are shitting on it and the truth is it has exceeded the degree of popularity where it needs to be paid attention to by animation obsessives.
Ryan Gomez
This. A show like Rick and Morty doesn't need to be amazing to be popular for a long time. It just needs to be "good" and have a very occasional great episode for people stay stay looked in in large numbers.
Isaiah Stewart
Why are the ratings in decline?
Lincoln Stewart
Because they are for the entirety of television
Jackson Gonzalez
Source?
Leo Bennett
No they tried a whole season of half-hours in 2011
Caleb Cook
Those episodes were pretty terrible. The one where Murderface tries to fund another group was hard to watch
Aaron Allen
>after the video with the nigger jumping on the counter at mcdonalds for szechuan sauce went viral
This video? youtu.be
Doesn't look like a nig to me.
Chase Flores
I did like the dentist episode though.
Charles Edwards
That's what's weird.
The episodes so far have been far better than much of S3. Quality ain't the problem here.
Juan Wilson
Yes, because it got shittier.
The quality of the season is pretty shitty so far, the first half had some better episodes.
The previous season was really shitty but did well since it stayed fairly structured despite a lot of cringe politics. Season 3 was really shitty and out of character for the show, so much that the resentment the fans had for the show was realized in the form of hating the "cringe fanbase".
Reddithomos have speculated that the fat aspie Dan Harmon isn't getting along with Justin Roiland anymore. Which makes sense since the guy is sincerely unhinged and infantile, pretty typical of the ethnopolitical-jewish.
Also the show's getting to the point where there should be some narrative progression but doesn't pay off. It keeps hinting at a plot, in fact building many plot points, but never willing to elaborate on them. The seasons essentially act as one long episode where the Smith family always returns to its status quo by the end of a season. Nothing seems to linger. The show is basically transforming into a forever-series like the Simpsons or Family Guy.
Adrian Moore
Since normies are the ones who still watch TV don't rating declines dent the idea that it's super popular with normies?
Noah Hill
More like filtering people. The last 2 episodes are great but normies are getting mad that the show isn't family guy anymore.
James Brown
Ratings don't account for people who watch on DVRs/Hulu live usually. I know zero people who watch new episodes live, they all check em out on demand.
Matthew Jackson
>there should be some narrative progression
Other anons have already pointed this out, but this is going to be [as]' syndicated cash cow, it's why their jettisoning any semblance of "plot". Episodic comedy does better in reruns than heavily serializes shows, it's why VB loses viewers every season, it's why the Office, south park, family guy are rerun nonstop. It's retroactively not that kind of show because the network is pinning all it's hopes on R&M anchoring the network the way the fox shows do currently.
Daniel Ortiz
I think easiest comparison to make is to the initial boom that The Simpsons and South Park both had, in their first couple years each were major fads and two of the most-viewed shows on television, but by season 4 both cooled down quite a bit in terms of ratings and they both morphed into essentially unusually large cult shows (that then became iconic by way of longevity and international syndication making them worldwide properties).
I think R&M’s version of “Bartmania” peaked between the end of season2 and start of season 3 (culminating in the Szechuan sauce incident), by being on Adult Swim and existing in a much less unified viewing culture with very few “watercooler moments” because everyone has thousands of choices instead of just what’s on live TV it took a bit longer to catch on than those two, but it did and already had its fad moment where tons of merch suddenly flooded the shelves and everyone learned the catch phrases. Nothing can be everyone’s favorite fresh new thing forever, and after a bit the novelty (or at least urgency to immediately watch new episodes) is going to wear off on some of the people who got caught up in the hype. It doesn’t mean audiences are actively turning on the show, it just means it’s not the biggest thing in the world anymore and is merely extremely successful
Elijah Adams
It's eventually gonna be American Dad, (the only Warner-owned McFarlane property), Rick and Morty, Home Movies (good) and Robot Chicken until real shit's on at 12.