How would Superman fare in the world of Kingdom Death?
How would Superman fare in the world of Kingdom Death?
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I'd say pretty well. Worst thing that can probably happen to him is a Sunstalker accidentally hits him with red solar energy. Otherwise he gathers some survivors into a little habitat, jumpstarts them on some innovations, and teaches them they don't necessarily need a philosophy of death.
This is a good answer.
Redpill me on Kingdom Death?
Basically
>Ancient civilizations exist in the world, everything's decent and pretty nice overall
>Then one day, fucked up stuff starts cropping up and reality starts steadily growing more and more unnatural
>A bunch of forces collectively called 'Entities' fondle the threads of fate, turning the world into a grotesque menagerie where the ground (and sky) are made out of stone faces, and where unholy monsters roam
>All the ancient civs fall and are consumed by the Entities at this point, some futilely opposing them before the end
>Survivors (the 'human' characters) awake into this unnatural world, ink caked into their eyes. Most find themselves attracted to the dim glow of a Lantern Hoard, around which they build a settlement to stand against the encroaching darkness. Others are instead placed under the protection of one or more utterly unnatural patrons who protect them...for a cost
>Now they must fight against fucked up shit like weird living fruit in the forms of Antelope made up out of vagina mouths and human hands, giant parasitic face-stealing mosquitos, miniature glowing hell-mouths that act as the setting's 'suns' and more
>Universally, everyone dies and suffers at the end of it all, without fail
>Welcome to Kingdom Death
Wonder if he'd tried to make a city for Survivors to gather in. He's definitely a better patron than literally everything else in the setting.
This is a game isn't it? The plot smells like one.
Yeah, it's a tabletop game. Ridiculously pricey too. But the setting and lore is great, and there's a lot of passion behind literally everything in it.
Yes. A really bad game. It isn't even an uphill battle. It is a downhill slide that you might slow the descent down. It is very RNG heavy and often punishes you for doing well.
The whole point of the game is to be a dark and depressing fucking take. You aren't soem superhero, you're a barely-dressed pseudo-savage living off the scraps of a dead and dying reality, mere entertainment for the forces that dominate every inch of it.
If that wasn't apparent from the opening stuff alone, then it's really not the game for you.
So there is no winning. Just see how long you can hold out before losing?
Pretty much. Like, literally every given ending is a bad end.
>Normal Campaign: The Lantern Hoard is actually the gestating form of a Watcher, an immensely powerful horror that keeps away all the lesser monsters, but at the price of it consuming the entire settlement once fully born. Successfully killing it means that now there's no incentive keeping the other terrors away, so they descend on the settlement en masse. Remaining combat capable survivors can fight the unending tide of monsters, but it's literally in vain
>People of the Stars: Dragon King is a tyrannical ass, so your people eventually group up to overthrow it. Literally forces you into a fight with an enraged and desperate radioactive super-dragon, where losing results in it wiping out the entire settlement it safeguarded and rampaging madly until death. Winning means that the Tyrant is dead, but now everyone is dying of radiation poisoning (Oops). Settlement crawls into catacombs to die, but get reborn as a whole host of new Dragon Kings. Closest thing to a 'good end.'
>People of the Sun: By the end of the campaign, the settlement has grown ripe enough, so the Ancient Sunstalker they worship comes down to collect. Fail and the settlement is (naturally) consumed. Win, and what defenders that remain are literally too weak to stop the infant Sunstalkers, who devour the entire population relentlessly.
And those are just the ones we know about, and against relatively weak beings besides.
>Setting where everything ends badly no matter what
vs
>Metaphysical embodiment of "Happy endings always come in the end, no matter the suffering"
Which Superman would be here?
Extra points if its All Star Superman.
The Superman thematically at the verge of death and eventual ascension post-death sounds like it work best here.
>Superman
Supes can't really do anything to change the setting. A big part of that being one of the Entities essentially being the Writer and it's free to retcon him out whenever it wishes.
He could make short term changes like says, and make the Survivors lives better on an individual scale. But he won't be saving the setting.
>Writer Retcons Supes out of existence
Except user that Superman Beyond 3D established that Superman as an Idea/Concept is stronger than any writer.
Its bullshit straight from the mind of a wizard, but its there.
>Stardust
kek
>Stardust
Is literally the Golden Entity. Right down to manipulating reality, fate and logic to make whatever he wants happen, having a functionally perfect body and literally having a borderline cult built around him. Also the horrific and needless torture and torment that borders on near fetish-level nightmare stuff.
So do they die horrible deaths or what?
>Except user that Superman Beyond 3D established that Superman as an Idea/Concept is stronger than any writer.
Doesn't really matter on this playing field. To the Scribe, Superman would be a stray blotch of ink on one page, and is only allowed to stay out of a curious whim. If it starts getting uppity or starts leaking onto other interesting pages, then there's literally nothing stopping him from just erasing it and writing the page over. And then there's the Goblin.
If Supes were playing under DC's meta-logic he MIGHT have a chance, but in KD proper, everything is up to the whims of the Entities.
I mean, that's what literally happens in Superman beyond, the page reduces itself to white canvas paper, and Superman persists.
Remember, humans might be bigger, but even a stray virus can kill us just fine.
Same user by the way.
Forgive my VS faggotry, but know anywhere I could actually read up on this setting? It actually looks really interesting, thanks for shedding light on it.
Everyone dies horrible deaths in KD.
Even Supes wouldn't survive the Overvoid, even Thought-Robot. That's very much the point there. That falling into the Overvoid is a cosmic L as it proceeds to digest you. Of course, Mandrakk eventually came back but that's mostly him being Mandrakk than anything else.
The only entity we've seen who has been able to actively endure and even manipulate the Overvoid (barring the Presence and Lucifer that one time) has been Perpetua. And she slapped everyone's shit when she decided she was bored of playing.
Where does one read the lore of this game? I've heard most humans in the setting are basically superhuman, but I'm unsure if I'm thinking of something else since no one has mentioned it yet.
Used to be that you could find a decent amount on the Vibrant Lantern website, but most of that is old as shit and has not only been eclipsed by newer lore, but is rarely brought up in more recent shit. Still a decent enough source to get a feel for things.
There's soem lore on the wiki for the game, which has bits and pieces, but the majority of the more 'compiled' stuff is unironically in the threads made on /tg/, like the one below.
Thanks user.
Would you recommend just buy the game if you're interested?
400$ but it does seem like you're getting your moneys worth.
If it helps, this is pretty much a meta-reason as to why a player can't just yell "I SUMMON SUPERMAN" and tank an entire campaign. Kingdom Death isn't the end of all stories, it's just a tragic one, so the Thought Robot wouldn't apply.
for the sake of this to not be an automatic "he loses, the end" kind of Go Fuck Yourself these kind of versus threads almost always descend into(see literally any versus thread that /tg/ ever has), we should probably be working off the assumption that Superman in this context is somehow immune to any "Meta" abilities any Kingdom Death entity has, they can only beat him through physical means, that evens the playing field by a lot and makes this a lot more interesting
Survivors in Kingdom Death are written into existence by the Scribe, at levels of and beyond peak physical performance. It's why they universally wake up with ink caked into their eyes and with turbo adonis bodies. They're all freshly written lines of text courtesy of the Scribe.
A pretty explicit thing in the setting is that the Survivors aren't actually human. They're monsters just like everything else, just monumentally weaker than pretty much all else, at least on their own. Still beyond any actual human in terms of raw physical strength.
Yeah, it's a good game. But at base, it might not shine as much as you'd like. Which is where the numerous expansions and extensions come in, which vastly lengthen the game and apply all kinds of crazy shit. Naturally, the price shoots up astronomically if you intend to get them all, including future ones.
I mean, with a strong enough and immortal Savior, you can basically MAKE your own Superman.