Canadian animators are wagecuks

Take $1000/week median salary ($720usd)

Unpaid overtime is part of the industry right?

If an employee works 1 hour of unpaid overtime everyday this equals 6 WEEKS of unpaid overtime in a year. 240hrs Or $6000.

10 hours of overtime a week equals 3 MONTHS!! a year Or $12,000 unpaid!

>For every 100 hard working employees a studio can make an extra $600,000 to $1,200000+ per year in profit (saved labour). They just hire less people and get everyone to do a little OT.

Studios already make huge profits and even get tax credits!

Anyone who challenges this gets called entitled, or blacklisted by middle managers.

This is why studios have pizza parties and video games. They want kids, they are the easiest to exploit. $100 in chips and pop is cheaper than paying everyone what they deserve.

Studios today even go to high schools to recruit future workers. It's like child trafficking without the sexual abuse.

A studios end goal is to sell their studio to a larger production company anyway, not necessarily to make original IP's.

Why do studios operate this way?

When is a union coming?

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Because they're from reddit.

this is real reddit spacing, not when you toss in a couple spaces to make it easier to read but when you type like OP

Meh could be worse. They could do it for free.

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They don't teach Americans how to indent paragraphs.

sounds like someone I know

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>When is a union coming?
You asses will be the first ones laid off when the company has a rough period

You could form one if you wanted

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Why do you keep making this thread?
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Stop working for corporations and make your own shit. At the very least draw furry porn pinups and youll make more money

Not OP, but I typed like that before reddit was a thing and have never posted on reddit, so I never understood the reddit spacing meme.

Two returns just looks nicer, like two spaces in-between sentences, fuck whatever microsoft word thinks.

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Are you by any chance a shill for this group?
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There was a studio that unionized(BoJack Horseman and Tuca & Bertie), the shows were quickly cancelled soon after by Netflix.

get thee hence

>Studios today even go to high schools to recruit future workers. It's like child trafficking without the sexual abuse.
You got a source on this?

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>When is a union coming?

Remember when Canadian VAs used to work on high profile shows? Want to know why they don't anymore?

You never had a career day? Some studios go to local high schools known for their arts programs. Though, in my personal experience it's mainly actual colleges with animation programs looking for recruits.

But Canadian VAs have always had a union. In fact, they were still cheaper than Americans because they get no risiduals.
So what he said was bullshit? Got it.

Look up old Zig Forums screencaps and look at all the redditspacing in them, conformitycuck

>MUH AMERICANS

What in that statement was wrong?

Need to create conversations around this issue. Unpaid overtime needs to stop.

Studios still make profits. It's never been cheaper to produce animation. All this means is they dont care about the artists... if a studio goes broke to pay its artists fairly, its run by morons. There is so much profit in animation, artists need a bigger cut of it.

It's not an industry of VA's it's an industry of Animators/artists.

Well the first line starts off converting 1000 fake dollars to 720 real dollars. So calling out CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA doesnt work in this scenario

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this is mostly a problem of anglo unions
if the US, Canada, UK, etc weren't idiots they'd have moved to a Germanic/Scandinavian style labour relations system where the company, employees, and (occasionally) the government get together to decide what's in the national interest during a downturn.

it kind of makes sense why they didn't (USA as the dominant world power not having to worry about finding a market and UK+Canada having had that impression due to being part of the British empire, while Germany and the Scandinavian countries were always threatened by a fall in their exports even if the downturn was only outside their countries.) but it's a much better system overall.

>But Canadian VAs have always had a union. In fact, they were still cheaper than Americans because they get no risiduals.

They always had a union, but their union did what unions always do: ask for more. That's put off a lot of companies.

Look up the bullshit their union pulled with Dragalia Lost. Do you think Nintendo is going to do more VA work in Canada after that? The fact that a bunch of their members did a non-union game should've been a wake up call to them.

That shit will happen to the animators if they decide to unionize. The foreign cartoons that do work in Canada (Rick & Morty, Looney Tunes, Disney shit, etc.) will go somewhere else. The leaf cartoons will start outsourcing more of the production to India and the Philippines.

The executives know the animation is on its last legs as a creative medium and that the remaining viewers and animators are both willing to accept scraps at this point. Any positive change will just speed up the demise.

They would outsource all of it now if it was cheaper... the only reason they dont is because canadas tax credits and absence of unions. So I guess that makes canadian animators cheaper than the 3rd world for now. Wow, what a privilege

The Canadian animation industry is a fucking scam supported by the taxpayers of Canada and I'm amazed no one there gets mad about it. Is having Vancouver seen as a shittier Hollywood/Burbank so appealing to them that they let American companies borderline embezzle their tax dollars?

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I never asked my government to waste my money on children cartoons. How can I sue?

No standing to do that. Just get mad that it happens.