Just finished watching Midnight Gospel, and man, I don’t understand the praise it is getting at all outside of some nice visuals I guess.
Do people really think this Psuedo-Intellectual, “I am wise because I took drugs” bullshit is actually deep or profound? It’s just a bunch of retarded hippies trying to justify their own degenerate existence.
Outside of the interview with the Mother (which is still more nonsensical, pseudo-intellectual bullshit), it’s pretty pathetic.
It's just a boring podcast. I watched the first episode. Dr. Drew hemming and hawing about whether pot ahould be legal. It's not profound and the animation is fine but has nothing to do with the content.
Interviews with animation to it. I saw an ad for it and it looked pretty terrible.
It's like if someone got the complete wrong impression from adult swim.
The dialogue is almost completely pointless unless you are a hippy stoner.
The visuals are pretty rad though, especially in some of the episodes. Overall I really liked LOOKING at it, even if I was zoning out most of the dialogue.
Perhaps I should have paid more attention to the marketing on what the show actually was. I didn’t really have any expectations about what it was or whether it was good or not and then instantly thought “This is like an animated Joe Rogan podcast.” It’s really boring and barely has any relation to the visuals on screen. It’s kind of insufferable listening to these people.
It's just different than other things that have come before it. I really liked it but my girlfriend hated it. It just depends on how big a fan you are of Ward's artwork and interview podcasts in general bc it's just those two things smushed together.
You'll understand it when you're older kiddo
the 2nd episode was pretty good
Also I think it's kind of nice that a mindfulness and meditation podcast targets stoners bc they probably need some kind of spiritual practice in their lives the most. It's not a perfect message for sure but like, if someones life is falling apart they don't need perfect they just need a foothold.
Hehehe
>Do people really think this Psuedo-Intellectual, “I am wise because I took drugs” bullshit is actually deep or profound?
no, why would you think that?
Saw the first episode last night, and honestly, I’m not down with it.
It’s basically a very pretentious take on doing drugs and justifying that it’s good. It’s really stupid.
I just finished reading OP's post and man I don't understand the replies it is getting outside of a few obvious baitposts.
Do people really think this holier-than-thou "I don't like thing" bullshit is actually cool or interesting? It's just a bunch of retarded trolls trying to get (you)s.
Outside of actual discussion threads (which still have a lot of low-effort baitposting), it's pretty pathetic.
It never really justified doing drugs it was just two people who do drugs talking about doing drugs. There wasn’t any “drugs are secretly good and everyone should do them to become better people” message or anything
> character consistently suffers and is selfish
> "hippie crap"
If anything this is a pretty venomous deconstruction of Buddhism.
Pseudo-intellecutal is what STEMlords call the arts and humanities because they're afraid of open ended questions.
Please explain how this show is a venomous deconstruction of Buddhism in any way shape or form
It's an excuse to normalize podcasting. It's all for the good of both ad awareness and artistic advancement.
>which is still more nonsensical, pseudo-intellectual bullshit
These are actual interviews with bits of dialogue added to make it flow more consistently with the animation. That was an interview with his actual mother, she really was dying and passed before the show debuted.
Clancy never lives up to his ego-death standard and is motivated by his worldly attachments via his podcast, characters who expose Buddhist philosophy are either inactive or die anyway and ultimately its shown to be a simple comfort to cope with the inability to do anything.
>Clancy and his guest talks about enlightenment but usually they're actions belied any true enlightenment
Remember the episode after the meditation guru? It was nothing but taking the piss out of Clancy's ego trip of believing he is now enlightened.
I really liked it. The way they weave the podcast segments in with the metanarrative going on in the background of whatever world Clancy is in at a time was pretty cool, usually culminating in something grandiose at the end that Clancy quickly loses the perspective of. Which was sort of the point. I've never really seen a show like this and whether you like it or hate it, that alone captivated me. And as said, if you don't follow that the entire enlightenment/podcast angle is Clancy just dodging the act of living his life, well, I'm not sure what to tell you. It's straight up explained in a phone call from his sister that he promptly doges.
The same hippy bullshit ruined Adventure Time.
They blatantly show how Clancy ignores important information like the Simulator's manual (this actually counters what Trussell believes irl, he thinks that ai has the potential to achieve true sentience, and should be treated with care- and Clancy ignores all this). Clancy is an imperfect character who has been shown to have a dark past (stole money from his sister's purse- it's the reason why he exiled himself from his Earth). We'd like to hope that he's actually learning from his journey and not just using it as an excuse to collect shoes like some idiot tourist, but by the time they're telling us he's going to Margaritaville the planet, he's ready to get into drunken hedonistic orgies.
He'll probably grow and develop as a character, but maybe his entire life is all a big simulation (as it actually is in episode 6) so he'll probably come out of his giant vagina realizing the entirety of season 1 was a simulation, and he'll learn from it, or not. Who knows.
I find it jarring how Clancy outside of the interviews is thoughtless and careless and just doesn’t really pay attention to anything around him or get the bigger picture, but during the interviews he’s super engaged and focused and seems like he’s really absorbing everything everyone is telling him, frequently asking questions and making “in awe” sounds at everything everyone says. It feels like podcast Clancy and normal Clancy are two different characters. It’s another reason why the podcast format doesn’t seem to really work
> the animation is fine but has nothing to do with the content
this
Fuck this modern art shit.
episode 6 makes up for it because it addresses how fake Clancey's "live free" persona is
someone on the writing team realized that he's completely unlikable to anyone who's not a tool
but episode 8 tries to really make you feel sorry for him becuase "muh mom is dying". really manipulative, i don't buy it
>. It feels like podcast Clancy and normal Clancy are two different characters
not really
its just clear that he's only half-listening to his guests. very realistic for people when "they're on"
and the ones he interviews he just flocks to because they help him justify his attitude
>every Zig Forums midnight gospel thread
It's just facade/persona vs. reality. Clancy envisions himself as an open-minded yet skeptical person that is always willing to challenge convention in a completely safe and controlled setting, but in reality he's a cowardly neet that is desperately avoiding adulthood and hardships by playing in simulated worlds and living on the rim. It reflects the mentality of many extremely online people out there.
It's so rare and so nice to see someone else in these threads that actually gets it and doesn't just immediately shit on it because they judge the whole show just on episode 1, which is honestly the worst episode.
>The way they weave the podcast segments in with the metanarrative going on in the background of whatever world Clancy is in at a time was pretty cool, usually culminating in something grandiose at the end that Clancy quickly loses the perspective of.
This is really well put and why the show is worth watching. People who get hung up on the speakers themselves are brainlets.
>we were only pretending to be retarded: the show
>religious and spiritual people are retarded
*tips fedora*
Yeah I really dug it, and the final episode had me tearing up for real. I didn't even know the circumstances about it until after, though the obvious 4th wall breaking clued me in as it progressed. The only episode I didn't like was the underwater one (which I think was 3 or 4), mostly because I feel like an ok guy as far as being open minded goes but the high magik shit is a bridge too far for me as a serious discussion topic. I really enjoyed the first episode, personally. Was a strong entry point that set the tone for what was to come in the formatting.
Simply put though, I don't think you'll enjoy this show if you have problems empathizing with other people.
God how fucking dumb are you that you think the writer room of an 8 episode netflix series tried to change course by episode 6? No possible way that there's a character arc that went over your head completely.
I want to fuck his boy cunny
oh I understand that there was an arc
It would've been so much better if they made the episodes and characters based on the message and ideas the people in the podcasts were preaching about instead of just slapping animation onto the podcast using it as dialogue. I had a hard time following what was on screen and what they were talking about. There's potential for something great with The Midnight Gospel. They just have to completely rework the structure of the show like I suggested. Or find a balance between podcast and animation. The prison episode and the finale captured that balance well.