Captain Marvel

I watched this movie with an open mind, and... it's pretty bad. I'm still processing it so I'm not sure if it's the worst MCU movie, but it might be. The opening and finale are a complete mess, with only a handful of okay scenes in the middle. The movie's attempt to re-create a 90s aesthetic gave a real feeling of uncanny valley since they didn't fully commit to it, it's still clearly using a lot of contemporary technology/techniques. The villains at the end are a whole lot of nothing.

As a comicslet I have to ask, what exactly are her powers supposed to be? Because it seems like she can basically do everything, once her inhibitor chip was destroyed. She is Superman but without even the kryptonite. She has no weaknesses of any sort, the finale has to pretend there's still tension by letting the baddies knock her around a little bit but she destroys them effortlessly. The whole movie sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the rest of the MCU.

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It was the best of the MCU, easily.
Hyped for the sequel!

Sarcasm aside I think the execution is a much bigger problem than the concept, so a sequel could work, technically. The MCU just doesn't have a good track record with sequels (outside of the Avengers stuff).

I can’t believe it releases in April 2020, they missed such an opportunity not releasing it in February, because that’s the month where they hide all the shitty movies.

It comes out on July 2022 though.

>As a comicslet I have to ask, what exactly are her powers supposed to be?
Since the early 80s, energy absorption & manipulation, all her other powers (flight, strength, gravity control) are abstractions of that.
Before that she also had precognition but Rogue took it.
It wasn't sarcasm, it was great.

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>It was the best of the MCU, easily.
>Hyped for the sequel!
>It wasn't sarcasm, it was great.

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>She is Superman but without even the kryptonite. She has no weaknesses of any sort, the finale has to pretend there's still tension by letting the baddies knock her around a little bit but she destroys them effortlessly.
Thanos knocked her out

Same here too. I really just do not get the hate for it. Any criticism people screamed seems to be grossly exaggerated. Yes, it has flaws, but it's not _that_ bad.

I don't "hate" it but I just don't consider it a well-made movie. It just has too many issues and its few good qualities aren't enough to make up for it.

All the more reason that there's no reason to treat this movie like it's footage of the anti-christ eating babies.

The film feels like a rough draft and if you look at some of the deleted scenes, they make the Kree a lot more empathetic, which then makes Carol slaughtering them in the end not feel victorious and more careless.

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You can see that they originally wanted to have it be that the Kree were more a victim of their societal values, which makes the ending they wanted not work at all.

Honestly, they should have had one of the Kree with Carol on Earth. Whenever Carol wanted to discover more about herself, that Kree would reel her in and say "We should go back to the Kree empire". Have the film go out like it normally would, but when they find the Skrulls, have that Kree betray the group to get the other Kree to try and kill the Skrulls. Or even have Carol try to go back to her team, then see that they're about to kill innocent skrulls to lead to the climax. What they did just felt so hallow that it deprived Carol of having any personality of her own. This film badly needed a second draft, and it's probably an unfortunate casualty for trying to film it directly after filming Endgame. This film is the Iron Fist of the MCU films.

>The MCU just doesn't have a good track record with sequels
Winter Soldier, Civil War, Ragnarok, and hell, I'd throw GOTG 2 and Ant-Man and the Wasp in there.

Exactly how I'm wondering how they can do any future Avengers film or Captain Marvel film when she's able to take Thanos with the Gauntlet. Like, what the everloving fuck can they do?!

>Yes, it has flaws, but it's not _that_ bad.
My friend and I have seen every MCU film in the theaters. Captain Marvel was the first MCU film we left feeling "That wasn't very good"

>The MCU just doesn't have a good track record with sequels (outside of the Avengers stuff).
AoU is the only MCU movie that didn't pull larger audiences in for the sequel. What are you on about?

And yet you saw Thor: Dark World

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Your friends have shit taste, Captain Marvel was amazing.

Ha, now that you mention it, I remember being annoyed by things like space ships and AA Guns on Asgard, but he enjoyed it for what it was. 2013 wasn't that great of a year for movies anyways.
What was amazing about Captain Marvel? And you can't say "Brie Larson is perfect"

Not him but Captain Marvel wasn't any worse than First Avenger (another flawed film), it just wasn't as cartoonishly B&W as FA.

All of the Iron Man and Thor sequels are worse than the first entries. Ragnarok leaned in too heavily on the scifi elements for me and lacked the charm of the original's fish-out-of-water in a small town premise, though I suppose it's better than The Dark World. It is a decent setup for Infinity War at least. Captain America is more of a mixed bag but frankly I think Cap becomes less and less likeable after his initial film appearance, he loses track of his humble roots and becomes about muh Bucky. I fucking hate Bucky. Winter Soldier is a mess of explosions and a political thriller story that's done better by actual political thrillers. Civil War has some great fanservice but also has one of the most infuriating stories in the MCU. Ant-Man and the Wasp was forgettable for me, wasn't as creative/fun as the original, and the villain(s) are awful.

I will give you GOTG2, huge improvement over the original (though I don't care for the humor in either movie).

I'm not talking about the box office, obviously.

There was a point in this movie where one of the villains said something along the lines of "don't make me hurt you" and Captain Marvel replied with the most apathetic and lame "okay" I've ever heard for a comeback. It really summed up the whole movie for me. Which is a shame because the cosmic Marvel movies have up to this point been my favorite in the MCU.

I also say this as a person who unironically enjoyed Birds of Prey and Wonder Woman 2017.

>There was a point in this movie where one of the villains said something along the lines of "don't make me hurt you" and Captain Marvel replied with the most apathetic and lame "okay" I've ever heard for a comeback.
>autist can't understand humor
Yikes.

If a superhero movie doesn't have a cohesive plot, exciting action, interesting visuals, charismatic characters or solid comedy then it doesn't even pass for the "at least it was a fun movie" category. It wasn't a terrible film, but the only thing worse than a bad film is a boring film.

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But it had all of that in spades. More than any other superhero film.

I enjoyed it more than a lot of other MCU origin films and as a comfy period piece. Some of the acting from the cast felt weird though, and the second act felt awkward.
>worse than a bad film is a boring film.
This argument doesn't fucking make sense. A bad film is a boring film.

The First Avenger at least had awesome atmosphere and likable leads.

There's something called delivery, you know. Just because you have a joke in play doesn't mean that the person saying the punchline said it well.

This movie was a piece of garbage, shitty acting, shitty message, everything about it was super generic.

Her in-canon kryptonite is being mind-controlled and raped by an alien entity who forces her to give birth to itself in human form, then grows to an adult in a matter of hours, and leaving the Avengers to be his space consort or something and Hawkeye and Iron Man are strangely OK with this.

She's also an alcoholic i guess

The mind control is a forced retcon and don't even makes sense, she wanted to fuck her son and even stated it was due to the fact he was her son. She straight up said she had an incestuous fetish.

The whole story felt like the author sick fetish being pushed into the character.