>Terry Gilliam has hit out at Black Panther, saying the Marvel movie “makes [his] blood boil” and claiming the crew behind it “have never been to Africa”. The veteran filmmaker was asked in a recent interview if he thought the film, which won three Oscars, only received the attention it did because of how it broached “identity politics”. “I hated ‘Black Panther.’ It makes me crazy. It gives young black kids the idea that this is something to believe in. Bullshit. It’s utter bullshit,” he said. “I think the people who made it have never been to Africa. They went and got some stylist for some African pattern fabrics and things. But I just I hated that movie, partly because the media were going on about the importance of bullshit.”
meh... not really. tony stark cant really build a nanotech suit in real life.. so if the white people at marvel want everyone to think that theres a ultra rich pretend black neighborhood in africa that DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for any other countryman except their own, who am I to stop them from being racist and hating black people?
Carter Phillips
Yeah, well, its obvious from his movie that he has never been to Brazil.
Asher Morris
That's kind of the point. Black Panther isn't africa, it's African America. The director made it for recreating an African American mythology as Tolkien recreated british mythology. BP isn't Africa, and that's okay, it's Pan Africa
Tony Stark is just one person, not an entire imaginary nation. And Tony Stark isn't held up as an important and life changing character for whypippo.
Joshua Sullivan
>Pan Africa Were my Algerians at?
Nathan James
Yes, Black Panther is a bullshit movie that pandered to blacks. Nevermind the cringy Wakanda Forever pose.
Ethan Howard
Algerians don't think themselves as Pan Africans. They relates as africans and let them be. Wakanda is, instead, an African American lost world.
Camden Diaz
I'm a brazilian and have discussed more than once how accurate that movie is for a lot of things. Just because it isn't a piss-filtered beach-and-favela fest where everyone is a nymphomaniac drug dealler it doesn't mean it isn't (metaphorically) accurate. DeNiro's character in particular is a spot on representation of the bureaucratic, aesthethic and conceptual loopholes and gambiarras we have to deal with.
Christopher Collins
Why do capeshit fans have a fucking meltdown whenever movie legends chime in on the genre? Hell, I remember Ridley Scott saying that he thinks they're enjoyable as mindless action blockbusters but he thinks it's silly people try to pretend they're far deeper than they actually are, but he still copped shit for it. You never saw Jerry Bruckheimer movies trying to pretend that they were high art, so why are people trying to do it with Ripped Spandex Man vs CGI Aliens #23443667454567567? It's funny too since the people who have the most to say about it don't actually read comics at all.
Noah Campbell
Pan African is really just code for Bantu ethnostate
I don't get Black Panther fanboys. Before the movie, most African-American wouldn't dare associate themselves with Africans. But suddenly after the movie, they act all pan-Africanist and that bugs me the most. Like, most Africans are tribalistic as fuck and would genuinely wish death upon another tribe, they don't care about pan-Africanism.
>it's not authentic Yeah man it's a superhero movie. But yeah the whole spiel about how important it was was mostly bullshit.
Christian Lee
Because it's mainly out-of-touch old dudes saying. And no one likes hearing somebody say "a thing you like is shit, and you're a sheep for enjoying it!".
Michael Moore
>“I hated ‘Black Panther.’ It makes me crazy. It gives young black kids the idea that this is something to believe in. Bullshit. It’s utter bullshit,” he said.
no one says the same about white kids and Star Wars. What's wrong with black people having escapism?
Better than yet another movie about slavery/civil rights/gangbanging.
Owen Fisher
>Pan African is really just code for Bantu ethnostate No, Wakanda ethnostate would be better. They want all the african americans under one single flag
Easton Cook
>is a bullshit movie that pandered to blacks. Nevermind the cringy Wakanda Forever pose
as opposed to the cringe ass Captain America featuring a white guy dressed up as an American flag with the cringe ass "I can do this all day" phrase? As opposed to how white trash love the Punisher?
Calm down black Zig Forumstard. No need to get super offended.
Ryan Perez
Star Wars is not a movie about a futuristic racist white ethnostate.
Colton Reyes
>Africans >Liking American Blacks Did you see John Boyega catching shit on Twitter from Nigerians? Fucking hilarious. They want nothing to do with them.
Jonathan Wood
A flag for them made by them, not a flag someone else made for them without asking
Landon Adams
It's often people who have been making blockbusters for 50 years saying that. Cameron, Scorcese and Scott don't make arthouse films, even Blade Runner isn't very deep. Gilliam now, he's a real artist, but criticizing a movie about a fictionnal place for lack of authenticity seems silly nonetheless. If BP was supposed to take place in Niger or Uganda, sure.
Parker Murphy
but whites worship that, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter like no tomorrow.
Benjamin Howard
Nice argument, now pull a Scorsese and lie about not enjoying cape films.
Christopher Roberts
Which doesn't make any fucking sense because an African American was the villain.
Justin Ortiz
The funniest one was people going after Frank Miller because he said he thought Nolan's Batman movies were shit
Juan Jackson
did you saw my posts? I know they don't care, that's what Wakanda is for. A black americans world for them without either xenophobia or racism, I'm aware they dont like them, that was the escapism of Wakanda is for
Aaron Walker
Isn't he actually British but pretends he is American?
Justin Jackson
>Which doesn't make any fucking sense because an African American was the villain. He was an anti-villain who almost everyone agrees was better than the hero. And an african american villain is okay if it's not the only african american of the story
