Will it be good? What are the chances Ava makes a good film?
DC New Gods movie
it's not going to be a good film seeing as tom king Is a writer and just look at how he butchered the new gods.
Look at the direction Warner is taking most of their DC films. That just guarantees it will happen.
I don't think it will be good, but at least it will have good visuals. I have no hope of Snydercut getting Darkseid right.
The question wasn't whether or not it will happen.
Jonah Hex happened.
The question was; will it be good?
It will be a visually interesting movie (I hated Wrinkle in Time, but it had cool shots) with lots of deep cut New Gods references since she and King are both fans, but it will miss the point of the New Gods just like Mister Miracle did. It doesn't matter anyway because all Zig Forums will focus on is black Scott Free and Barda.
>but it will miss the point of the New Gods just like Mister Miracle did
Mr. Miracle wasn’t trying to be some kind of a fanwank comic, it was using the characters to tell a specific story, same way Kirby was talking about the Nixon administration with New Gods.
Her first big budget movie was so bad that not even shill journalists could pretend it was well made, but they all did their best to declare their anticipation for her next bowl movement. And what was it? Oh right. A racebait movie on netflix about a few dindus.
>she and King are both fans
>It doesn't matter anyway because all Zig Forums will focus on is black Scott Free and Barda.
Stop trivializing race swaps. If you swap the race or gender of any established character, you were never a fan of that character. Simple as
Kirby's 4th World has almost never been good. The Englehart/Gerber Mr. Miracle stuff was good but most of this mythos is lame as fuck. I sincerely doubt they'll get anything decent out of it. This and Marvel's Eternals are going to be a huge embarrassment to their respective companies and will help kill off the superhero movie craze.
Ugh.
Since Tom King Wrote it it’s going to be terrible
How?
Isn't Duvernay pro white men though?
>a black filmmaker
>being pro white anything
After Kirby nobody besides maybe Simonson has "gotten" the Fourth World stuff
I'd argue Giffen as well, when he's actually serious about it
Giffen and DeMatteis did a pretty good job
and the answer just like jonah hex is.....NO!
Will Darkseid look like he should in her movie or not?
She's going to make it a Darkseid is actually a sympathetic villain bullied by the condescending NG elite. He'll be shown like MCU Killmonger rather than as the ultimate evil.
Bros, is the DCEU dead?
My only thing is, for all the hate that Starlin gets he wasn't TRYING to be Kirby. It's a bit abalogous to Johns' Doomsday Clock using the WTchmen characters but needing to do something capeshitty with them. not excusing johns, or starlin for that matter, but starlin particularly wasn't trying to "get" it because that would been being unable to write them in capeshit stories.
Muh black oppression, Darkseid as white privilege and Barda or Scott as the poor black oppressed by the system
the bitch who blackwashed a wrinkle in time is doing new gods? RIP. it's woke and going broke, 100% guaranteed.
Lol if you think she won't have all of New Genesis looking like Greeks and romans and all of Apokolips as a slave re-employing his broken shackles.
No it's gonna be atrocious. Just wait until she casts like Chiwetel Ejiofor or someshit for Highfather.
I never understood the people saying that Apokolips was supposed to be an allegory for the Nixon Administration when the issue Glorious Godfrey was introduced opened with a quote from Hitler and Desaad was running a “happy” camp where he tortured innocent people. The techno war that Darkseid waged ending in a stalemate seems like an allegory for WW2 transitioning into the Cold War. Either way, just because King was trying to tell a specific story doesn’t means it’s good, and it’s completely valid to be upset if a character’s established way of acting is shat on for the sake of that story.
>will it happen
Wb literally must hate actually owning dc. They've been trying to get a flash movie made since 2006.
People like you see these characters as interchangeable, random faces on a page. Others don't. This means that while you may find worth in the wildly OOC writing others find it as implausible as a story about Bruce going on vacation while Gotham burned.
>It doesn't matter anyway because all Zig Forums will focus on is black Scott Free and Barda.
As we should. This isn't Zig Forums. If they want to change the material to the point that it's unrecognizable that's a valid complaint here. Go discuss the value of subvertive casting on Zig Forums.
I mean Tom King quite literally doesn't understand the concept of an ubermench and Ava is singularly focused on race.
Why would this be anything but a disaster. Maybe she can make King feel so much white guilt he offs himself and we can have good comics once again.
Maybe because Kirby has said he modeled Darkseid on Nixon and in his mind Nixon getting elected was the end of the world as the fascists were essentially given the keys to the house.
>Will it be good?
Of course not.
>What are the chances Ava makes a good film?
Zero squared. This movie cannot do the concept justice and she is comically nonqualified.
This is going to be a disaster.
You cannot complain about out of character behavior in a story that specifically has people act oddly to underline that something off with the world around the main character without making yourself look like a complete idiot with no reading comprehension. And you only reinforce the notion that you cannot read when you whine about Gotham burning.
She likes white men
He took the story of the New Gods - which is a cosmic hyper-epic about chivalry, courage, hope and despair, destiny, doom and fate, freedom and slavery, evil and good - and turned it into a pathetic story about a hallucinatory parody of those ideas. It is unbelievably vile in a way that merely bad writers like Bendis, Snyder or Fraction could never attain, because they are merely inept. They TRY to write good stuff.
But King - like Dave Sim in a way - is deliberately writing terrible comics.
What are the chances WB firea her and they get James Wan to direct it?
I wouldn't mind it, if Highfather was played by Morgan Freeman or something. As long as he pairs dignity to kindness and wisdom.
Hihfather is played by Jeff Bridges
>They meet for the first time
"Oh!"
"Uh, hello."
"You're white!"
"...Um... sorry."
"But your name is 'King'! Is this a deliberate provocation?"
>King goes into a fugue state with PTSD flashbacks while Ava only gets angrier when she learns his first name is 'Tom'
"Tom King?! What the hell! How dare he! Why not 'Jim Crow'!"
Kill yourself.
>it's intentionally shit
It didn't serve the plot at all for scott to be out of character, he supposed to be the straightman to the rest of the cacophony.
What are the chances she even makes the film?
Kek is watch that as a movie in an of itself. "Cringe for King"
That's a rumor.
I heard a rumor that Billion Dollar Bates is gonna be played by Robert Downey jr
Is there sauce for where he said that? Cause I can’t the allegories at all. Granted, I haven’t read the entirety of New Gods, I’m currently only on the third omnibus, but I figure with how on the nose Kirby had been with the Nazi Allegories, Nixon ones would be more apparent.
>You cannot complain about out of character behavior in a story that specifically has people act oddly
Lol you casuals are the worst. The type of insipid faggots that defend every fanfic idea as a valid premise for an Elseworld.
This is where user will say it's well known rather than giving you a source cause there isn't one.
I'd
>Kill yourself.
Is the fact Highfather has always been portrayed as a white man - even though he is not from Earth and we don't even know how and if race works for the New Gods - so important to you?
Were you this upset when, during 'Godhead', he was portrayed as a blinkered dictator who was becoming dangerously like Darkseid? Or when Orion was portrayed as a surly teenager, talking like a normal joe?
>Is the fact Highfather has always been portrayed as a white man - even though he is not from Earth and we don't even know how and if race works for the New Gods - so important to you?
Yes. You don't decide which characters are valid to be raceswapped.
>Were you this upset when, during 'Godhead', he was portrayed as a blinkered dictator who was becoming dangerously like Darkseid? Or when Orion was portrayed as a surly teenager, talking like a normal joe
There wasn't and isn't a single person that wouldn't upset
Is changing his race that important to you? Like if it isn't a big deal why do you actively want it changed?