Why did Harvey Beaks flop while Loud House was a hit...

Why did Harvey Beaks flop while Loud House was a hit? Both shows are down to earth and feature realistic scenarios and character developments.

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Nickelodeon's shitty management.

Unlike the Loud House, it didn't have SpongeBob-tier ratings. The second season was fucking stationed to NickToons. Also this:

I just assumed it cost more so it got shafted.

Would Harvey Beaks get 6 seasons and 2 movies if Greenblatt stayed at Cartoon Network after Chowder ended?

It's sad honestly
CH. Greenblatt
>One of the most honest and nicest man in the animation industry
>Wrote some of the best episodes of Spongebob (he made Band Geeks) Billy & Mandy and created Chowder, one of the few good CN shows during the mid-late 2000s.
>CN fucks him over and cancels Chowder for Live-action shit
>Goes to Nick in hope to get a better start
>Nick fucks up over even worse, cancels HB without even telling him and he wasted 7 years working on something Nick didn't want
Chris Savino
>A man who is famous for making mediocrity
>Ruined Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff Girls
>Made a comic about a cat wanting to fuck his mother
>Harrassed female employees for over a decade
>Gets greenlit a show, it becomes a hit
>Gets fired but his show is still a huge hit and his legacy lives on
Why is the world so unfair?

Reminder that Nick almost screwed over every show that came out from them and they are pretty retarded:
>lose Doug to Disney because they didn't want to give it a 5th season
>fuck up negotiations with Bartlett, which results in him leaving in 2000, while also putting the Jungle Movie in developmental hell; air Hey Arnold's final season over a span of 4 years
>screwing Schauer continously over with dumb restrictions; not airing the final episode of Angry Beavers, because the Beavers blatantly tell that this is the final episode and they're getting cancelled
>airing the final season of CatDog over a span of 4 years
>allowing CN to take Ed, Edd n Eddy because they didn't want to give Antonucci full creative control
>not allowing Hillenburg to end the series after the movie (which is understandable, SB is a fucking cash cow!) and not listening to his wish to NOT have a spin-off
>airing the final season of As Told By Ginger over a span of 14 fucking years, over 3 fucking channels, with two episodes not even airing in the US, including the fucking finale
>renew Invader Zim for a second season, immediately cancel it 4 months after announcing it, resulting in S2 having only 7 episodes, which only 1 aired on Nick in 2002, while the rest premiered on NickToons in 2006
>cancelling MLAATR, ChalkZone, FOP, Catscratch, The X's, El Tigre, Barnyard, Mighty B over not being up to SpongeBob
>The Making Fiends Disaster
>Choosing F&CC over Adventure Time, ultimately allowing CN to steal it from under their nose
>sporadically sending more and more shows straight to NickToons after premiering (TUFF Puppy, Breadwinners, Robot and Monster, Pig Goat Banana Crickets, Harvey Beaks, Bunsen is a Beast, Welcome to the Wayne) and then cancelling them after one or two seasons for not having SB ratings
>delaying Pinky Malinky and Glitch Techs for 4 years, then deciding to dump them on Netflix

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Because it was shit.

Based on this, Rocko, Aaahh Real Monsters, Jimmy Neutron and Avatar are the only Nicktoons that didn't get screwed over.

Jimmy Neutron didn't get its 4th season and 2nd film, instead the network decided Planet Sheen was a better pursuit.

You think Nickelodeon will still screw over shows when cable finally dies and it won't be about ratings anymore.

>Choosing F&CC over Adventure Time, ultimately allowing CN to steal it from under their nose
Can you really blame them? The pitch for Adventure Time looked like shit.

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>sending such a dogshit pitch
Penn's lucky CN was going through a cartoon drought between 2008 and 2010

It was a cute show but it really didn’t have a comedic “hook” for a wider audience like TLH does.
For those of us who’ve seen a lot of cartoons and seen every cliche in the book done to death it’s refreshing that the protag is such a sweetie with the kind of neurotic quirks usually reserved for non-leads, but it’s totally possible that doesn’t work as well for kids other than ones who relate enough to self-insert.
With TLH they took a time-tested Cheaper by the Dozen premise and then made all the siblings cute girls, which gives girl viewers some sideplots they can relate to and boy viewers a chance to have their first waifu. It isn’t a good show but it’s definitely written down to kids and has enough cheap laughs to keep them entertained

Funny enough, Harvey Beaks had the same number of episodes as Rocko and Aaahh!!! Real Monsters.
I guess actual amount of content produced doesn’t matter as much as whether or not they actually air and market your show in terms of being seen as a “success”

Wasn't that because the studio went bankrupt?

Yes, The Ant Bully sunk them entirely

Loud House has humans

You call those retarded children humans?

Because it doesn have a blank slate anti protagonist that allows pedos to self insert

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It's relatable, nobody can relate to a bunch of woodland critters

what happened with making fiends?

A combination of worse scheduling than the TLH, significantly less promotion than the TLH, and a "gimmick hook" that was less immediately appealing than TLH (two wild children teach neat kid how to break rules vs. only son in a 11 children family) as pointed out.

>CN fucks him over and cancels Chowder for Live-action shit
I wouldn’t say that chowder was getting cancelled. The show was going to end sooner or later with the child actor for chowder becoming older.

>Making Fiends
Christ, that went quick. I don't think it was promoted at all. And it was super short iirc.

They couldn't replace him with another child? Also, CN seemed kinda proud of Chowder.

Because Harvey Beaks feels like a pre school show

>t. lucky soul to not know about this injustice
Back in 2003, an animator named Amy Winfrey (previously worked for South Park as animator) created a web series named 'Making Fiends'. It was one of the most famous web series back in the day, that Nick eventually approached Winfrey to turn Making Fiends into an animated TV show.

But then the problems came. Instead of going to Nickelodeon as planned, it was shifted to NickToons. Even with that, it was still the highest rated show on the NickToons Network, proving its high quality. But then Nick abrupty cancelled it for some reason and kept the rights of the series, so Winfrey legally can't create new Making Fiends episodes again.

Thanks for giving me the Vietnam Flashbacks again!

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It wasn't promoted at all, because before premiering, Nick decided to just dump it to NickToons and cancel it immediately.

His own words

Who would draw this?

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