Would he have pulled the trigger if the thug didn't back down?

>He hasnt killed any one tho
Dude, Terry fucked his villains over. If not dead, they'd never be the same again and would probably wish Terry killed them.

I dunno how bad he'd feel, he's clearly not Bruce Wayne in regards to a no killing policy. He's killed his fair share of villains, even if usually indirectly.

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He left the guy who killed his dad to drown, he basically killed the fantastic 4 knock offs, the drug makers seen hereAlmost certainly more examples.

You think he's there to play?

Who did Bruce Wayne go out of his way to save, was the question.

Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, Harley Quinn, Joker on several occasions but most amusingly when the average joe scares the shit out of Joker(though Charlie's bomb was non-lethal and got a laugh out of Batman.)

I'm sure more villains as well. It's something BTAS Batman does alot.

There's a difference between actively killing someone and choosing not to save them. Bruce certainly did the latter often enough.

Here's my question though. The first episode of Batman Beyond presents Bruce as retiring because he's simply getting too old to handle it, the fact he pointed a gun at someone convinced him of this. Later episodes presented "the reason Bruce stopped being Batman" as some kind of big mystery Terry was dedicated to finding out, after Bruce explained how wearing an exo suit put too much strain on his heart but Terry didn't buy it. Were they trying to imply something even bigger that we didn't see?

I don't think it was Tim and the Joker, obviously Bruce kept being Batman long after that.

>Bruce certainly did the latter often enough.
Nolan's Batman is explicit on "I won't kill you but I don't have to save you", but I don't recall BTAS Bruce leaving villains to their fate as much as Terry would.

Batman felt guilty for Amanda Waller literally having his sperm cuck Terry's """"dad's""""" sperm.

Dear GOD was that fucking stupid.

>Bruce certainly did the latter often enough.

Not in BTAS. He never let someone die if he had the ability to save them.

Was Bruce aware of that?

>Mr. Freeze, The Penguin, Harley Quinn, Joker on several occasions
This never happens

I don't think so, I'm just angry about such a needless plot point.

It was a combination of factors.

If Justice League/Unlimited directly fits with BB's timeline and not a quantum reality, Bruce blames himself for not being there to watch Tim. Instead, Bruce was hanging out with the League and that caused him to spurn away from it after the whole Joker/Tim clusterfuck.

He drove away Dick irrevocably after fucking Barbara. Barbara eventually got tired of Bruce's controlling single-mindedness and Tim went on his own when he was old enough. The only person that put up with Bruce's shit was Alfred and by the time Bruce was in his 50's/early 60's when holding that gun, Pennyworth was already dead. Even Jim Gordon wasn't around. Bruce was truly alone.

When Bruce nearly put himself and Bunny Vreeland in danger by not being up-to-par with heart problems, that was the final straw. Being forced to use a gun; something Bruce loathes was just the tipping point of what he was denying to himself; he was simply too old to be Batman. He realized that he was nothing more than an aging man who had nothing to show for his efforts except an isolated mansion and nobody to be with.

If you even look at what Gotham looks like when Terry's a teen, street crime has somewhat cleaned up compared to Bruce's days. Even with the Jokerz, Gotham became a thriving metropolis of inner city life and industry again. The main problem was that crime evolved into more organized and corporate levels like Derek Powers and all those other figures pulling the strings.

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>Joker
The Charlie example I mentioned, once from when he is dragged out of an exploding building, and one where he's hanging over a smeltery. He says "You wouldn't let me fry, would you?" and Batman pulls him up. There are probably more.
>Harley Quinn
Harley's Holiday is based around Batman saving her after a misunderstanding spirals out of control.
>Mr. Freeze
Bruce saved Mr. Freeze, funded tech to keep him alive in Arkham, saved Mr. Boyle. Terry TRIES to save Mr. Freeze but in Beyond Mr. Freeze is dead set on dying. He also saves Nora, but by the time of Beyond Nora dies due to some fuck up on the part of scientists.
>The Penguin
Saves him from steam he uses to beat him in a fight.

He eventually let that one guy who became intangible to fall through the floor and live in an eternal hell at the center of the earth without giving a fuck so I don't see why he wouldn't have put just one tiny bullet inside someone.

THIS

Batman even tried to save Matt Hagen (Clayface). Even offering the resources of Wayne Enterprises to try and cure him. Or even Anthony Romulus who became a werewolf.

Batman will beat the shit out of criminals, but he will do all that he can to prevent them from dying. And he also believes in rehabilitation like giving that former thug from Old Wounds a job in his company. The same for the Ventriloquist.

Let's not forget trying to help out Harvey Dent, a former friend and ally when he became Two-Face.

DCAU Batman is WAY more humane than people give him credit for.

>The main problem was that crime evolved into more organized and corporate levels like Derek Powers and all those other figures pulling the strings.
Why didn't Bruce just fucking take control of the corporations in Gotham and keep the peace that way?

I mean he did give enough of a fuck to do what he could to save him. It was just impossible to do so.

That was Deadman.

To be fair, that shit rag reporter was beyond saving. He caused the death of Professor Taka who invented the intangible belt and it was implied that Bruce knew Taka on a personal level and respected him.

By that time, Bruce was too old to give a shit about going the extra mile to save criminals and assholes who got themselves into trouble. Can't say I blame him.

At the time when he pulled that gun on the kidnapper, Bruce still had enough of his idealism that he couldn't fathom the idea of pulling a trigger. He'd be no better than the thug that murdered his parents.

>He eventually let that one guy who became intangible to fall through the floor

It's not like he could have actually done anything.

Not like when Bruce sabatoged Clayface's procedure to turn him back into a human rather than let him live a tortured existence as a monster.

Didn't he also help out that Cheetah girl who was crushing on him and who he cucked away from another animal guy? Or did I have that shit in a fever dream?

Didn’t they show up later under arrest?

I dont think so? It's been a while, but those were presumably concrete rollers, it would be pretty fatal to have them dropped on you.

There's only one Bruce Wayne, there are myriads of Powers, corporate slimeballs would eventually beat him out same as crime did with Batman.
Wayne-Powers likely survives because Powers beats away the competition Bruce doesn't.

He did. Remember the pilot episode of Batman Beyond had a news broadcast about Bruce fending off another takeover attempt by Derek Powers. But even Bruce has limited resources. Wayne Enterprises was what helped clean up Gotham during his years as Batman by providing jobs and infrastructure. In a way, it helped usher in gentrification in the sludgepit that Gotham had.

In a way, Gotham by Batman Beyond became on-par with DCAU Metropolis. A clean city full of thriving businesses and you could walk at night (for the most part) without having to worry about being mugged.

He tried but couldn't keep control of his own company. The pilot mentions Wayne was successful at fending off a Powers buyout but by the time Terry is in the picture the merger has happened and Powers is in charge

I'd like a couple issue miniseries that was centered around this time period. "Batman : Year Final" or something as we watch him pushed to his breaking point as he is unable to keep up with the pace of change.

To be fair, if Clayface had underwent the procedure, his transformation powers would've been unstoppable thanks to the mutagen stolen from Wayne Enterprises. Batman probably felt it was safer to take Clayface into custody in his weakened state and then develop a cure (without giving him dangerous powers).

Well it wasn't quite Metropolis level, the pilot implies there were lots of roving gangs. Of course, I think that was when they were planning to have lots of gangs based on Batman's old villains rather than just the Jokerz. Then they realized that was silly and gave Terry more original villains.