THE BATMAN 2021

Will it be as memorable as Burton Batman and Nolan Batman? Are you looking forward to it?

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Visually speaking it's a contradiction to itself. Reeves always said how much would he love to do a Noir Batman, but the Bat-suit itself doesn't scream Noir at all, it just looks like it will be another Action Packed Batman movie. Not in the same level as Affleck's BvS, but probably more close to Nolan's Batman, which sucks. After all this years, it still looks like only Burton got almost everything right in Live Action (Even tho his Batman was a killer and characters like Penguin or Catwoman were rebuilded).

Like, Burton didn't even read the comics but he understood Batman's lore better than anyone, he didn't feel shame to show The Joker as The Joker or Batman being a dark creature of the night, a black devil that become what it is thanks to the devils of Gotham, but instead of becoming a monster, he's using his trauma and methods to try to improve and clean Gotham by his own methods.

I highly doubt Reeves Batman will go that road, since it's already contradicting itself visually speaking (And doesn't seem to have the same charm as Burton or even Nolan's).

Reeves did Dawn and War of Planet of the Apes. Those were great, believe in Reeves. Also, the film is set during out time.

This movie will fail.

I do believe in him, but I just don't think I will see a more comicbook-esque Batman with him. You said so, he's making the film to be set during this time era, which just feels fucking wrong.

Like, why limit yourself making it in 2019/2020 when you can do it in a more atemporal setting, taking elements from different decades like Burton, BTAS or The Arkham Games did?

In the best outcome, his Batman will be like Telltale's Batman. But that's the best outcome. We don't even know how Riddler and Penguin look like. If they look uninspired, or directly like shit, we are doomed to deal with another "realistic" Batman. And I doubt that's what everyone wants, specially after seeing Affleck's Batman (or the 30% of him).

I think the way they're going with is that they have the noirish, 40s Gotham with the zeppelins and organized crime with tommy guns and shit.

And then that's besieged by this 70s grindhouse Dodge Challenger Travis Bickle Batman. So he's like a brutal new animal they aren't ready to deal with

I guess it could work, I'd rather have a consistent worldview.

I hope it's better than Nolan's boring shit just so nolanfags could shut up about their god being perfect and infallible.
Glad Hoaquin makes Ledgerfags seethe by the virtue of being an actually complex villain unlike their daddy Ledger.

>I think the way they're going with is that they have the noirish, 40s Gotham with the zeppelins and organized crime with tommy guns and shit.
I fucking wish that was the case, but Reeves already confirmed the film will happen in this actual times.

Why?

Noir is cynicism, fatalism, and moral ambiguity. It's not a particular look or even an applied filter (like Snyder's muted colors or Nolan's use of bright daylight or near-total darkness to make Batman seem like a creature of polemic extremes). It's just cynicism, fatalism, and moral ambiguity, none of which is expressed more clearly in Batman movies to date than it was in the two Burton movies. Nolan's Batman is clearly a hero and clearly has standards; he rarely drops below them and when he does, he has co-heroes he listens to, like Lucius Fox and Michael Caine, who tell him he's going too far. Snyder's Batman has apparently sunk to all the depths and just straight up murders people or attacks them and leaves them for dead, which is *fairly* noir, but noir doesn't have to be ultra-violent and in any case, Snyder's plan for Batman was that he would change and grow as a hero through the movies they're never going to make.

So far we've got a costume and a couple of shots of a bike, all of which looks like a pretty low-rent vigilante operation, not the slick, obviously-only-a-billionaire-could-afford-it look of Nolan or Snyder or even Burton. In the OP image he's even wearing jeans and some production body armor with a few rubberized tweaks to make it more "bat". Will the movie keep that up? No way to know.

But saying it's not noir because of the look is like saying Alphaville isn't noir. It clearly is, just because the protagonist is an old French dude who rides around smoking doesn't mean it's not noir.

But everyone loves realistic Batman, there is a reason Why Nolan Batman is so popular.

Batmobile

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Bat bike

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Penguin

Btw, The Batman will resume filming soon as they are allowed to again.

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But you still agree with me when I said Burton is the only one so far to get it right in Live Action (even with all the liberties he took).

Yeah, Burton's Batman was noir but it also screamed both Noir and Comic Book Fantasy. Gotham itself, Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Batman. The visual elements of Reeves movie (as far as we have seen by now) doesn't have the same energy. It doesn't have too, but it's obvious Reeves just wants to do his Batman movie, and not A Batman movie (Burton did both. Like, Batman 89 was a Batman movie and Batman Returns was his Batman movie, with his vision at 100%).

It wouldn't be a problem if his vision with the character feel accurate and respectful, but so far it looks like, for instance, his Batmobile will be a regular car with little upgrades, and the Batmobile isn't supposed to be a regular car. I hate Nolan's tumbler, but even he, Snyder or Burton knew that The Batmobile has to be above all the other cars from Gotham. It has to separate itself from them all, you know what I mean?

If The Batmobile already is like is, I'm scared to think how Catwoman, Riddler or Penguin will look or act like. That's what worries me the most tho, since so far we have just rumors, and one of them speaks about how The Riddler is just a fucking hitman.

>Implying Nolan Batman is more popular than BTAS Batman or even The Arkham Games

user, sorry, but Zig Forums is over there.

Set photos confirmed zeppelins.

>But everyone loves realistic Batman
Only edgelords like him.
Realistic Batman is against everything the Batman's lore is about, if you make him realistic and grounded you loose many of his villains such as Ras Al Ghoul and Man-Bat and even Clayface

Isn't Reeves batmobile based on one of the comics batmobiles from the 90s which was a sports car or so?

But Ras Al Ghoul was in Batman Begins, Liam Neeson played him.

>But Ras Al Ghoul was in Batman Begins, Liam Neeson played him.
And guess what? He sucked.
No Lazarus pit.
No demon magic.
Neeson wasn't even arab.
He is just Deathstroke

Explain why Nolan trilogy was such a success both box office and critically. When I talk to someone about Batman they bring up the Nolan trilogy not Batfleck or Keaton.

>Didn't have Ubu
>Didn't have the Lazarus Pit
>Died and couldn't come back because of it

To correct you, the Ras Al Ghul we needed was in Batman Begins, but not the Ras Al Ghul we deserve.

That's just... Like your opinion pal. I like realistic Batman. He is the only character anyone can actually relate to not like Superman, I hate him.

>Explain why Nolan trilogy was such a success both box office and critically.
What public thinks isn't my problem.
Public thinks Spider-Man is no one but Iron Boy.
And if you go by box office and critical success then you get Snyder's Batman that was made because Nolan's Batman was a success
>When I talk to someone about Batman they bring up the Nolan trilogy not Batfleck or Keaton.
When I see someone bring up the Nolan trilogy is just for "big guy 4 you" memes.
And I'm pretty sure the real Batman fan will tell you that Burton's Batman is a real Batman movie and not CSI with iron man armor

Burton's Batman was such a success that it started a second Bat-mania across the world and had direct influence to BTAS.

1960's Batman was so big that literally every actor of the moment wanted to appear in the show as a villain, and it started the first Bat-Mania across the world (Until Burton's Batman happened and changed people's minds about the character).

By how do you speak, I can mostly confirm you weren't born before 1990.

Oh, so you're one of those people then.

>big guy
user, by someone I mean real life people not strangers on the internet, you actually leave your house and talk with real people, right?

What do you mean by that? You think I'm not a real fan don't you. As a fact, I love Burton Batman and Brave and the Bold Batman. And Nolan Batman. TAS too.

>That's just... Like your opinion pal. I like realistic Batman.
And I respect your opinio-
>He is the only character anyone can actually relate to not like Superman, I hate him.
You're the reason MoS and BvS were made

How am I the reason MoS happened? I hate Snyder films. He ruined Superman, you can make him flawed but not fucking boring too.