These two characters are pretty much Mary Sues, yet somehow they aren't at all obnoxious or irritating to watch

Toph is bullheaded, brash, and kind of stupid.
Katara is naggy and easily blinded by things that are too good to be true.
Neither one are a mary sue, they've got obvious character flaws that get them into trouble on more than one occasion.

Please give your definition of Mary Sue. Its a phrase that has lost all meaning.

>true of the entire gang
It's not thought.

Sokka had genuinely ignorant and sexist views.
Aang was a bit of an attention whore and hid the map to their father out of jealousy.
Aang was careless and burned katara
Aang let his took out his anger and frustrations of losing appa out on all his friends, he even broke buddist code and killed an animal because he was so mad

I could go on and on, but the rest of the cast had genuinely serious character flaws they had to confront, often ones with real consequence to those around them.

Toph and Katara are only at their worst when it genuinely doesn't even matter, otherwise they are just literal goddesses with their ability and accomplishments alone.

And I say all this to say that never once i'm i ever dissapointed when they are on screen, they are amazing and i love every moment.

A huge part of katara's arc is that she was wrong about Zuko

But she's justified in being wrong about zuko because she didn't know any better.
The moment they have time to talk in the earth kingdom prison she flips like a switch

>a blind character who gets BTFO by someone saying she can't enjoy the stars is a Mary Sue

No.

>Katara had to come to terms with her mother's death and not give in to revenge.
I'll kind of give you this, but it literally came 1 episode before the climax of the show.

That and it felt incredibly forced and OOC, like what they did with Korra which made her fucking isufferable.

lmfao this is the dumbest post i've ever read

I'll agree the revenge part could've been longer, but Katara was dealing with her mother's death from the first season. Also I wouldn't say it's out of character for her to decide not to kill someone, if anything it would've been weirder if she did. Anyways she's the weakest of the group in my opinion, but she serves her part as a foil to the antics of the rest of them.

Aang is the avatar, being OP is his deal.

Zuko is from a powerful firebending family and is explicitly not particularly talented compared to his father, sister and uncle.

Katara didn't start OP; but she accumulated tons of real world battle experience very rapidly over the course of her world travels. Her progression from novice to master through the first season is depicted gradually and realistically.

Sokka is underpowered. Suki is a highly trained warrior.

The story is set during a long war which has drained the Southern Water Tribe and the Earth Kingdom of fighting age men.

Only Toph really stands out as annoyingly OP. But even there, Aang was specifically seeking a master.

Im not saying her decesion was OOC, i'm saying the way she acted was.

Same thing in the first episode of season 3 when she just suddenly starts acting like a total bitch to her dad. It's justified that her feelings towards him maybe complicated (even though she was acting just like sokka in the bato of the watertribe episode), but the way she acts just so so incredibly forced like they are trying to give her flaws and it just doesn't work.

>Sokka had genuinely ignorant and sexist views.
I'd say that was more for the show to have a lesson about sexism, and he was the best one in the group to have it. It's like that episode where Toph was cheating people.

And yes Aang had some more stuff to work out, but he's the main character so of course the show spent more time showing his growth.

>the stars sure are beautiful, too bad you can't SEE THEM TOPH

>Toph proceeds to send a wave of rocks her way launching Katara in the air and landing on her brother

Mai and Ty lee just use the excuse that Azula forced them to take over Basingsai.
Im mean, yeah she did, but they were still responsible. Talk about double standards.

That's over simplifying things. She was the first one of the group to give him a genuine chance and he completely betrayed her trust.

Not every character you dislike is a Mary Sue, you moron. Just stop using that phrase altogether, you clearly don't know what it means.

Azula would have literally set them on fire if they refused and they still tried to stand up to her in the end.

Plus they were bros with the new fire lord.

It means "A character he doesn't like", obviously.

Poor Sokka, always getting hit with the collateral damage of his superpowered friends

youtube.com/watch?v=olBMqfQhxAk

They still did what they did, I'm just saying take a little responsibility.

the painted lady never really portrays her as right just Sokka as a good brother helping her bailing her out when she fucked up

Nobody in Avatar is a Mary Sue. The kids are all crazy powerful but they've all got flaws too.

>yet somehow they aren't at all obnoxious or irritating to watch
>katara
how can one user be so wrong?

they went to prison

and we all know what happens to pretty girls in the boilling rock

what are you talking about? Katara is fun

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They pin you to the wall with shivs and paralyze you?

Problems with your mother user?

You know, whenever feminists make a big stink about Mary Sues being a sexist term used to describe any female character who's mildly strong, or a good thing they should embrace, people like OP only give them actual support for their arguments.

It makes the characters that actually do deserve to be called Mary Sues even harder to criticize in return.