What makes one work and the other fall flat?

I personally blame Bendis, but I haven't caught up with Miles after Bendis left for DC.

Peter is already a teenager with attitude, Bruce is not.

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Having a great movie while the other one has a meh cartoon series

What's different

Well Peter was dead when Miles first showed up in the comics for one thing

And delaying the death to seconds after introducing him fixed it in Spider-Verse?

One of them exists where the original is an old man long since retired and needs a replacement, the other exists where the original is at his absolute peak but is being pushed to the side for no reason.

That's rayciss.

Bendis not creating/writing one?

There are two Peters in spider-verse, he's trained by the second and in turn that Peter is able to get back to his own dimension.

You didn't actually see Spider-verse, did you?

Terry has his own rogues gallery. Miles doesn't beyond his Uncle.

There are two Peters in the comics too though

No, that's why I'm asking what's different

OK well tldr: Mile's world has a Peter and he dies pretty early on after meeting Miles and then the other one turns up and that's when they become a teacher/student kinda duo. It's pretty good, you should watch it when you get chance

But that's not much different from the comics, the part where he works alone in Ultimate was erased and now that he's in 616 he works with Peter, the only difference is that in the movie Peter came to his dimension? The original post was about Miles being better in the movie.

In 616 he works on his own for a good while. They meet like once and nothing comes of it. A lot of the even marginally interesting shit that happens with Miles crossing universes gets dropped in favor of him just being another Spider-Man.

Cyberpunk setting was a huge draw to the Beyond show for me. Terry’s character on his own is pretty forgettable and by the book, what makes him stand out for me at least is how effortlessly he plays off of Old Man Bruce and the world he inhabits. Miles hit the scene as the Ultimate universe was losing all of its appeal and I don’t think I need to repeat what everyone and their mother has said about his supporting cast.

>great movie
LOL.

Terry is white.

Terry is a clone when in reality isn't while Miles isn't a clone when he actually is.

Also Terry and Bruce has S tier banter.

>this thread again

>same exact almost word for word comments

Hmm, I wonder who could be behind this?

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Terry is the creative brainchild of a team who were masters of their craft, coasting of the excitement of a new millennium and the simple hook of “teen Batman”. He’s a character who’s is unique and compliments Bruce as a successor and his presence doesn’t crowd or weaken anything established because he exists in his own unique version of the lore.

Miles is a character gimmick at its most basic. While not an outrageous or new concept, he came around at a contentious time in global social politics and seemed to be created at least in part as a reactionary move against some blown out of proportion twitter debacle. Conceptually he shows promise, but as writers in pop culture must often walk on eggshells now, no one seems to be able to do anything with him besides the surface level. They can’t get him out of Peter’s shadow without sacrificing his label as Black Spider-Man, but that label makes him redundant. Honestly he lost his charm when he was drafted to the 616.

Terry debuted in cartoons where he's the main character of a self contained series.
Miles debuted in comics as a second stringer legacy character where he's constantly pulled out of his own story in order to be in Civil War 4: Kids vs Grownups Edition

Bruce was a vulnerable old man by the time Terry replaced him. Bendis killed off Peter and then replaced him with a cheap tokenism knock-off.