>hfw the same people that a decade ago were talking about how inspiring v for vendetta are now talking about what should be destroyed/banned next
Hfw the same people that a decade ago were talking about how inspiring v for vendetta are now talking about what should...
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What sort of pebblebrain was inspired by V for Vendetta?
Reap what you sow Alan.
You could've written about the actual honest to god threat group, but no, you decided to play safe and make the censorious monsters that'll do anything for power a bunch of biblethumping stand ins for Thatcher and her ilk because of the massive chip on your shoulder.
The kind of pebble brain now talking about what should be destroyed/banned next.
That was ages ago though. For a long while, the Bible Thumpers were to go to stand ins for that sort of group. Times change of course.
Even back then the Bible thumpers (especially in the UK) were basically powerless. Don't let screeching fool you into thinking anyone gave a fuck what they thought, otherwise you wouldn't have had Piss Christ.
>are now talking about what should be destroyed/banned next
No one is talking about destroying anything. No one is getting erased from history, it's just that there are some awful people for which it would be better to launch a fucking parade for.
You don't see any statue of Adolf Hitler at Auschwitz, do you? Doesn't mean he has been forgotten.
>You could've written about the actual honest to god threat group
But hid did. the fuck are you on?
You miss the point, the Bible humper was a big electoral bad that was used for the Thatcher party to get in power, even if they never really cared about it and this is perfectly depicted in V for Vendetta.
>No one is getting erased from history
What is "decolonising history" when whites = colonisers?
It mean removing the false narrative that white came there to bring "civilisation", whereas they were mostly there to exploit and extract resource and dominate.
I've literally never heard the term, but I would assume it would involve teaching histories largely ignored and understudied by colonial powers which tended to focus on the preservation of European history and the destruction of others.
>ground-up remains of Ancient Egyptian mummies, both human and feline.
Fuck, we were assholes.
"people"
do you mean the plurality of specific individuals. Or a faceless collective noun like a journalists who may or may not have the same people writing for them.
It's the standard cycle of power
>what's in power right now sucks!
>you know what should be in power? stuff I like
>let's destroy what's in power and install what I like
>what's in power right now sucks!
So what should the white child being taught this do with that knowledge? "Your ancestors destroyed entire continents, and are the villains of history." What then?
>I've literally never heard the term
Because I'm speaking from a British perspective. The weird thing about it is when it comes to WW2. So now the narrative is that it's two evil racist Nazis fighting each other.
>implying it wasn't both
>So what should the white child being taught this do with that knowledge? "Your ancestors destroyed entire continents, and are the villains of history." What then?
There as a lot of asshole in the past, don't be like that, the end. Also some good figure, look into this. I mean, how is that not straighforward to you?
>So now the narrative is that it's two evil racist Nazis fighting each other.
It has always been the narrative that Chruchil was the bad guy against India. Not that Ghandi was any better. Nothing new, there.
Also, maybe more of a focus on the many soliders who fought in this war rather that making it all about a single man. It's never that simple
The funny thing is that while the common people of Briton were plagued by disease, famine, and basically illiterate, the colonies had hospitals, libraries, and schools popping up everywhere. So it's no fucking wonder that the people of Bristol wanted a statue of Colston.
No, it really wasn't. colonisation is counter-produtive when it come to developpoing countries. On the world map, of all the countries who aren't part of the Occident, those who weren't colonised are doing the best.
Botswana was one of the few countries of Africa to not be colonised (only eve a protectorate of the UK) and it's doing the best out of all the African countries.
I'm not really seeing the irony here. Granted I haven't read V for Vendetta in a while but the MC blows up the damn parliament.
>There as a lot of asshole in the past
Which all look like you.
>Also some good figure
None of which look like you.
And how should a diverse society treat this knowledge? What should the relationship between a black boy and a white boy be when one is the descendant of evil, and the other is the descendant of good. The only option would be to deny any connection to it at all, or you'll be totally crushed by the moral weight of it all.
>Not that Ghandi was any better
Ghandi is basically a saint in the modern discourse.
> maybe more of a focus on the many soliders who fought in this war rather that making it all about a single man.
You mean the people fighting for white supremacy?
Your big error is thinking this is about fairness.
You're simplifying. Also you are forgetting about the negroes simple yet violent nature.
>On the world map, of all the countries who aren't part of the Occident, those who weren't colonised are doing the best.
Same with the home base as well. 8/10 of the poorest regions in Europe are in the UK. So where did all that wealth go? Must be in all the white supremacy bank.
>Thatcher apologist
Christ almighty.
>Which all look like you.
No, they don't. the fuck are you on?
>None of which look like you.
No one in the past is like me or any other. you are not making sense, there.
>What should the relationship between a black boy and a white boy be when one is the descendant of evil, a
you are a moron. One is neer responsible of the action of someone else. How much active neurones do you have?
>Ghandi is basically a saint in the modern discourse.
He actually isn't. Most are aware of his paedophile inclination as well as being responsible for the perpetuation, to some level, of the cast system.
>You mean the people fighting for white supremacy?
The people fighting against it, mostly. But you know, history, the whole deal, all of the actors.
>Your big error is thinking this is about fairness.
I am sorry, but I am not doing that error. I am being factual, you, on the other hand, seems to think that guilt is transmissible through blood, which it isn't.
Epic Fail Guy
>You're simplifying.
I am not. Colonisation has never helped bring civilisation.
> Also you are forgetting about the negroes simple yet violent nature.
Unbacked claim.
>Must be in all the white supremacy bank.
White supremacy is a trick to exploit the poor to make them proud of their skin color.
Kinda, yeah.
>White supremacy is a trick to exploit the poor to make them proud of their skin color.
for
power always finds a set of shoulders to rest on.
today its the progressive faggots
tomorrow its the muslims
>So now the narrative is that it's two evil racist Nazis fighting each other.
That's not exactly an irregularity in world history. Plenty of conflicts are just one evil empire fighting another for more territory and serfs.
You can't really deny that atm, white guilt runs the discourse, at the expense of everyone else.
>No, they don't. the fuck are you on?
Name 1 (one) positive white role model for the empire. Even Wilburforce is the racist "white saviour."
> One is neer responsible of the action of someone else.
So you think the talk of reparations is wrong?
>He actually isn't.
We'll see how long it takes before his statue comes down.
>The people fighting against it
Who are these soldiers fighting against white supremacy?
>you, on the other hand, seems to think that guilt is transmissible through blood, which it isn't.
Of course it isn't, but you seem to think that people will be fair and logical when they see a chance to seize power. If saying the sons of another group leads to guilt being transferred, and to make amends they have to give things and power to your group...Well, it's a tempting offer for the unscrupulous, isn't it?
Plus, like the other guy said, it's true if you're in India or SEA.
Cool. How can I access this? Rent is due.
Look at the last UK election. People had a choice: on one hand, refurbishing the NHS, invest in education and infrastructure to relaunch the economy, make a better social security, tax the top wealth to help the poorest.
On the other hand there was lol Brexit and aren't those damn immigrant scary. also, let us fuck you up in the butt while we suck out all of your money.
Somehow, the majority of people voted for the second choice.
>Fuck, we were assholes.
It's okay. It fell out of use by the early 20th century, so they only did it for like four centuries.
And sometimes they just ground up slaves and criminals.
>white guilt runs the discourse
No, it doesn't. White guilt is a a right wing invention made so that they can keep playing the victim somehow.
White guilt was never the point and it should never affect you.
Yeah, that's what an idiotic Labour voter sounds like, good impersonation.
Nobody implied banks cared about you, you disingenuous boob.
Look, the people we want censored and the sources they utilized are alt-right Nazis and their propaganda. Their one goal is to remove the freedoms we enjoy now for oppressed minorities, such as the transsexuals and ethnic minorities. I feel no sympathy for these people and would gladly stripped their rights away, if it meant their toxic ideology cannot flourish and infect the minds more vulnerable to their propaganda.
The same things Germans and the Japanese and the Italians do.
Fucking deal with it and realize life is complex.
You don't. they got you. there was a way to get it back some time ago but for some, it looked like fucking over the lefites was more important.
Also, Onions Green prequel called Mummy Brown when?
>he still thinks labour care about the white working class
lol
If they care about the white working class they can start by just doing their jobs and deal with the grooming gangs instead of not doing their jobs and covering it up.
Face it, the Left sold out the white working class decades ago, and went full in with the racial stack.
Didn't know about that word filter.
Blame the EU. If it handled things better you wouldn't have seen a resurgence of nationalism pretty much everywhere from the UK to Italy to Greece to Germany to Poland.
It's the observation anyone with a minimal amount of objectivity will come to.
What. Gone with the Wind, and Fawlty Towers are Alt Right media?
OK, so I'll feel the same way about my group as every other group feels about theirs? Or is that racist now?
>Fuck, we were assholes.
People everywhere have done shit like this because any sort of detailed history generally was limited to living memory. Italian peasants used to dig up statues from antiquity to burn for lime production or smelt for their metal content and natives of the arctic have been known to feed their dogs frozen mammoth. Most of the famous libraries of the past have been looted and/or burned several times for various reasons.
the british Stan Lee is a real piece of shit. Being british is shit. God Slay The Queen.
The only way to refurbish the NHS is to tear it down and bring in a continental style system like Switzerland and Germany have. Same for the entire state school system, it needs utter dismantling and rebuilding. Social security also needs complete and total reform to make it harsher and reduce pension take. The top already pay the most and we have some of the highest rates of tax in the Western world.
Leaving the European Union is a simple, straightforward reclamation of soviereignty which is the cornerstone of liberal society and freedom, ie, you can control who rules you and especially in this context, who sets what tax where. Mass immigration has been a complete and total failure on every single level and the only things the Tories are doing to "fuck us up the butt" are continuing the Labour policies they inherited, not reversing the Blair years and restoring our freedoms and continuing to promote the ridiculous Green policies which aren't green and only make everything worse. However guess what? All of the bad things the Tories are doing are also done by the other parties and they squeal that the Tories aren't doing it enough.
Yes, you fascist.
>>he still thinks labour care about the white working class
Corbyn definitely did. He was an old-school pinko.
>Face it, the Left sold out the white working class decades ago,
They never did. You sold out the working lass the moment you refused to extend solidarity to non-white.
The left care about the white working class. they also care about all the non-white working class too.
Woking class issue and idpol issue are intertwined you can't improve on one without improving on the other.
Anyone with a minimal amount of objectivity would actually focus on the systemic disaster that has been British Socialist policy, realise the Tories are centre-left at best and not bow down to the Great God of the Britons, Schoolzandopsitals and realise that these systems need complete reform which would be against the Labour party's desires and interests as both the NUS and the NHS form the backbone of modern Labour membership.
It's the reality, though.
Man you are getting this parody down pat. It's almost like you're a brainless Corynista.
The EU is not responsible for people shooting themselves in the foot for hating other.
>Man you are getting this parody down pat.
You can keep denying reality. you know it to be true. People voted out actual betterment of the UK because they were scared of migrants. They were never the biggest threat. If they were at all.
>Blame the EU
They did many things wrong, but you are the reason the world is in the shitter now.
Everyone blames the EU while they are mostly not responsible for that.
First the EU is rather weak,mbecause contries dont give them enough power, which is bad and good.
Most things the EU do is good for the EU but countries that get a slight disadvantage vetos or whine.
Many rules that the EU is blamed are not made by the EU or were pushed by lobbies.
user that's reasonable and doesn't continue the political shitflinging, delete this right now.
>so I'll feel the same way about my group as every other group feels about theirs?
You shouldn't. No one should ever feel shame for the action of someone else.
No. Just no. I'm a leftist but you're grossly oversimplifying things. The European left fucked up in protecting the poor and the EU fucked up in protecting European working class against the damaging effects of globalization, of course shit like Brexit was going to happen when the UK was always one foot in and one foot out of the EU.
>Leaving the European Union is a simple, straightforward reclamation of soviereignty which is the cornerstone of liberal society and freedom
Leaving the EU mean you get to be subjected to all its regulation on international commerce while having no say in the matter. and a reform of the UK social service didn't require a brexit for it to come into effect.
im out of the loop
what's going on?
Oh boy, the dumb anglosaxons talking about their shitty brexit politics on the comics and cartoons board. How ontopic this is.
Funny things is freedom is still there. Only insults are not.
Many that "muh freedom" is either "they dont do like i want" or "i cant say fuck, shithead or kill threats".
Many times these freedom advocates xant handle the backlash they get, period!
>on the systemic disaster that has been British Socialist policy,
Except that's not really the case. all of its issue come from Torie trying to gut it down.
> realise the Tories are centre-left
lol, no.
>Corbyn definitely did.
Then he did a poor job as leader by not purging all the Blairites and race warriors. Like said the entire system is fucking rotten and "more money and claps for RNHS" isn't going to do a shit of good. Same with more money for schools. Education was better when the teacher had just a stick of chalk and some battered old books used year-on-year.
>You sold out the working lass the moment you refused to extend solidarity to non-white.
Why should I extend solidarity to the people brought here by the people in charge in order to fullfil their racial stack?
White: "Hey buddy, you were brought here to do us down, lets join together to rise up."
Non-white: "Actually we already have full support from the state so allying with whites isn't in our interest."
What is to be gained by either side in this unity? The non-whites are already given the goodies. Why would they risk that?
>The left care about the white working class. they also care about all the non-white working class too.
Ah, so they covered up the grooming gangs because the racial angle because...?
>Woking class issue and idpol issue are intertwined
No they're not. The idpol issue is brought in to beat down the class issue.
Why are American anarchists so retarded?
>a continental style system like Switzerland and Germany have
M8 what the fuck are you talking about. Switzerland has basically the same health insurance policy as the US, it's only more viable because (most of) the Swiss can actually afford to pay ridiculous amounts for insurance they'll likely never need.
t. Switzerland.
>The left care about the white working class. they also care about all the non-white working class too.
The left has never aided the non-white working class without screwing over the white working class, which they justify under the pretense of "extending solidarity".
>The European left fucked up in protecting the poor a
No, they didn't.
> and the EU fucked up in protecting European working class against the damaging effects of globalization
The left has never been in power in the EU parliament. Once again, people kept voting right because pinko scary.
>You shouldn't.
Why not? Look at all the positive attention every other group gets? What's to lose?
>Globalisation
You mean "workers of the world, uniting"? Looks like they got their wish, but got swindled by the Monkey's Paw. Should have wished for a turkey sandwhich.