J.J. Abrams Interested In Directing Superman "Reimagining"

Henry Cavill might star if Warner's plan to boost his popularity through supporting roles in other heroes' movies is successful.

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>Superman is the Black Widow of the DCEU
>Harley Quinn is the Iron Man
>Superman is getting dunked on by Aquaman and Shazam
>And a non-canon, low-budget, character-driven psychological drama about the Joker is amogging ALL OF THEM

How did we end up in this timeline? Is this Bizarro World?

How about just giving me fucking Superman, is that so hard? Stop trying to reinvent the wheel dammit. Also fuck JJ for getting his son to write a shitty Spider-Man comic no one wanted

I can already imagine it. It’ll be the most safe, by the books, sterile shit ever and will solidify all those years of “Superman is lame and boring” comments. you see on social media.

>The guy who fucked up both Star Trek and Star Wars

It really is incredible how hard it seems to be to do Superman right. Even if it's not incredible, I'd settle for just good. Is it really that hard to capture the fun campy positivism of the first Superman movie?

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DC should just stop with movies and keep going with their shows. Doom Patrol, Harley Quinn, Stargirl have all had varying degrees of popularity with mainstream audiences. Just keep that energy going.

We are in the timeline of wanted where the super villains got their hands on the infinity gauntlet in the anti-life equation and rewrote reality to be as shitty as possible. While they live it up in their secret bases hidden around the world

After how genuinely angry everyone was about Batman V superman? A by the numbers paint by numbers Superman movie would be a step up.

Face it Superman’s not going to be relevant anytime soon maybe never again.

>Is it really that hard to capture the fun campy positivism of the first Superman movie?

If you want that just watch Shazam. And it’s not like a Superman movie needs to be campy to be good. Some of my favorite superman stories have dipped into the darker side of the character.
Camelot falls is one of my favorites. And I was hoping they would adapt that in the DCEU.

Honestly, just do what Marvel did with Captain America.

With the modern Superman movies, WB went "everyone thinks Superman is boring and unrelateable, so we have to give him angst!" And guess what? People disliked these versions (Singer's and Snyders) even more.

With Captain America, Marvel went, "yeah, Rogers is the cheesy, square-jawed, pure-hearted good guy. Let's play that up so that he contrasts with our other characters, who all have different personalities, and juxtapose Captain America's personality with the uncertainties of the modern world, instead of making the character himself angsty."

And people LOVE him. He's many people's favourite Avenger. No normies or casuals liked this character before they were exposed to him through the movies.

Just make him the goody-two-shoes he's supposed to be, and if the movie itself is good, people will like him.

Jesus Christ it never ends does it.

>Reimagining
yikes

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So in other words, Superman is not popular anymore.

You may be right, Taco Bell employee

Knowing Abrams, it’ll just be doing the exact same shit again with nothing new.

>With Captain America, Marvel went, "yeah, Rogers is the cheesy, square-jawed, pure-hearted good guy. Let's play that up so that he contrasts with our other characters, who all have different personalities, and juxtapose Captain America's personality with the uncertainties of the modern world, instead of making the character himself angsty."
>Marvel
>Different personalities

It eventually got better but under Whedon the Avengers were interchangeable, SPECIALLY during age of Ultron when they were all LE EPIC SNARKER

> boost his popularity
His popularity isn’t the issue. WB not having any idea what they were doing with superman is the issue. Make a superman movie about superman and not nolan-verse batman’s super sidekick. You kinda did it with Capt Ameri-wonderwoman and Dude-bro underwater Thor. Superman is a hallmark character, he doesn’t need to be a supporting role in anything just be Superman.

To be honest, JJA could do it. Supers needs to less non-edgelordy and more fun. I think Shazam covered the campy stuff.

Any director/writer of a Superman movie should be required to watch Superman and the Mole-Men. That feeling Superman gives you in that film is how Superman should be: A paragon of good virtue and simply wishing the best for everyone. No Jesus imagery or just punching, but a sense that whatever he does he does it for the best of everyone.

>With Captain America, Marvel went, "yeah, Rogers is the cheesy, square-jawed, pure-hearted good guy. Let's play that up so that he contrasts with our other characters, who all have different personalities, and juxtapose Captain America's personality with the uncertainties of the modern world, instead of making the character himself angsty."

Ignoring how the story bent over backwards to make everything easier for Captain America and never actually had him face any genuine conflict.

I mean I like winter soldier but I didn’t like how it was revealed that all of the uncertainties of the modern world was because of a secret Nazi society pulling the strings behind the scenes.

On top of that Captain America can actually suffered consequences for his actions that superman can’t. Because at the end of the day he’s a normal dude who can be overpowered. He’s not the endpoint of a my dad’s bigger than your dad argument. You can empathize with Captain America because he’s an underdog everybody can relate to an underdog.

It’s hard to relate to a man who can take a bullet to the face and shrug it off and has nothing mentally complex going on underneath the hood.

Basically the more powerful you make a character the more mentally Complicated and conflicted you have to make them in order to make them resonate with an audience. The weaker a character is the more you can afford to make them idealistic because they can actually suffer consequences for sticking by their ideals.

Not that any of this matters they fucked up with superman so badly that no matter how hard they try they’re never gonna be able to fix him. Not without a complete and total ground up reboot and because of the success of Shazam and Aquaman and to a lesser extent suicide squad and Wonder Woman? they aren’t going to.

So it’s superman is doomed to be to our generation what Aquaman was for so long.

Speaking purely for myself I would prefer we never get another superman movie ever again then go through the fan boy drama every time they mess up with him.

> I mean I like winter soldier but I didn’t like how it was revealed that all of the uncertainties of the modern world was because of a secret Nazi society pulling the strings behind the scenes.
To be fair, Winter Soldier took a lot of elements from the original Secret Society arc, but just made the Society Hydra. I think it actually works opposite to your observation because it makes Steve question what exactly he’s protecting and where he can turn to. Civil War, however, was a big fuck you, as was Ultron.

Abrams should fuck off

Does abrams like the Donner films? Because if he does there's a pretty good chance he'll turn in a flashier, soulless pastiche of his work. Which wouldn't be anything to look forward to, but also wouldn't be the worst possible outcome.

Why isnt J.J.abrams dead yet? Why is he being rewarded after ruining star wars?

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Shit, what kind of goofy mystery box shit could he include?
Mysterious stealth Legion cameos?
Smallville turns out to be a Truman Show style fake reality designed to give an omnipotent being a moral core, but it never explains who by?
Hints that Lois also has Kryptonian powers?

At this point as long as the movie doesn’t engender the hatred of literally the entire planet I think I’ll consider that a win, or at least a step up for Superman.

>Hints that Lois also has Kryptonian powers?

I’d actually be all for that. Given there have been quite a few stories where Lois got superman’s powers and those were actually some of the more charming or emotional stories.

Because force awakens was mostly him setting up for another film maker to take over and it made a ton of cash. And most people don’t consider rise of Skywalker his fault. Because he was mostly doing damage control after the last Jedi.

Basically Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy got most of the blame from fans while he got off relatively clean because he was only there to do a job for a paycheck.

Force awakens had good set up for future movies it’s just what they did with that set up ended up not panning out the way they wanted it to. And he was not involved at all with Last Jedi.

Long-winded viral-marketing ARG campaign that tease villains and plot lines that end up never being mentioned in the actual movie.

Lots of people liked Cap thanks to the Capcom games.

Out of the Grimdark Zack Snyder frying pan, and into the social justice feminist talking points incinerator.

>Smallville turns out to be a Truman Show style fake reality designed to give an omnipotent being a moral core, but it never explains who by?

That’s a literally Homelander’s origin story in the boys. And given how that version of superman turned out I think maybe they definitely should not go down that route.

Jor-el is still alive

Hits the daddy issues he copypasted from Spielberg, has comics accuracy even though I've never seen anyone who actually likes Mr. Oz, and he doesn't have to do anything with it

>the guy that ruined Star Wars and Star Trek
>now gets to ruin Superman
No.