Yeah it sucks about Uncle Bill or whatever his name was, but the real tragedy of my life was the death of Iron Man

>yeah it sucks about Uncle Bill or whatever his name was, but the real tragedy of my life was the death of Iron Man.

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Hey notice how once Disney bought out Marvel Spider-Man stopped fighting rich people and started worshipping a billionaire

Funny ain't it

Or how Hulk hasn't had a solo movie since his main enemy is the US military and Marvel movies are backed play the Pentagon

It's not so strange really when you consider that the real source of the angst was less Tony's absence in Peter's life and more the way his absence left a teenager with the expectations of living up to the example of the man who just saved the universe before dying.
A small percentage of Spider-Man villains are rich people. The only ones in the movies have been the Osborns, meaning in the past the times he fought "rich people", were just the times fighting Harry or Norman.

Hulk hasn't had a solo movie since the Disney buyout because Disney and Universal won't play nice together.

Yeah, weird how Peter's greatest villain and best friend are absent. Instead Pete is left to fight working class stiffs fucked over by a rich guy

It'd be like having Bruce Wayne's parents die, but he never talks about and acknowledges them and the main focus of his stories are him obsessively living up to Superman's expectations and Riddler and Penguin were just people that hated Superman.

>Yeah, weird how Peter's greatest villain and best friend
Yeah, in college and after. The Raimi movies just decided that the son of a rich industrialist went to the same high school as an orphaned broke kid.

Where the fuck did he say otherwise?
inb4 'but mcu spidey is in high school'

Raimi Peter was in high school too, they just bent canon to put Harry there because they wanted to start with a Goblin story. MCU Spidey films start with Vulture, so it's not necessary.

Sony makes the decisions on those movies, champ.

Since Aunt May looked like this, what did Ben look like?

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>stopped fighting rich people
Did you see Vulture's house?

they also bent canon in the MCU by not making peter broke at all

>It'd be like having Bruce Wayne's parents die, but he never talks about and acknowledges them
So most Batman stories then.

But user, he has a whole tirade about being a poor working man who develops and sells weapons to criminals to sustain his family (and the house, and the private high school). Surely a villain wouldn't lie!

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interesting

I'm not even sure how it's possible to be this ass ravaged

He goes without talking about them at times but they are almost always addressed on way or another No, I mean never. For an entire continuity. Superman takes more importance for Batman's motivation and his villains than his parents or Batman's actions directly.

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There never was Uncle Bill or whatever, Peter just fucks his aunt in secret

Ask Aunt May

Don't he and May live in some dinky apartment? At least in Civil War they do. Tony gave him a suit, not a whole lifestyle upgrade.

I'm pretty sure Batman 66 for instance never addressed his parents' deaths at all. And that's 50 hours of material, a lot more than Spider-Man's screentime in the MCU.
You fags are fucking annoying.

>The Avengers is some sort of military program complete with military base
>A bunch of the members are just straight up soldiers
>The leader is a billionaire capitalist
>A lot of the villains are vengeful working class people
>In fact both Spider-Man villains so far, who are usually the super rich (Kingpin, Green Goblin etc.) were in fact both disgruntled employees
>Spider-Man has switched from a working class hero who had to rely on his own smarts and everything was made by his own work, to relying on a billionaire capitalist and getting everything from him. Which causes him to hero worship him.

They should do a joke relating to this in the movies. Like, Peter spills a bag of rice on the floor and Aunt May says
>Awww, Peter! The Uncle Ben's on the floor because of you! It split open and it's spilled all over now! And it's your fault! You need to be more responsible.
Peter understands that May is upset about other things and using the roce incident to lash out. He lets her air her grievances and then just says
>I'm sorry I destroyed the Uncle Ben.
This would be the only time anything about Uncle Ben is ever mentioned in the MCU.

No.

Peter had lost his father figure, Uncle Ben. He blames himself for that, so he put on the mask.

That mask brings him to the attention of Tony Stark, who becomes another father figure to him. Who then dies, because he wanted to bring Peter back. Peter, the "kid he lost", whose picture gave Tony the push to actually engage with the time travel problem. Tony died because of Peter.

And so Peter lost another father figure. The tragedy isn't the death of Iron Man. It's that Peter lost Uncle Ben for the second time. And for the second time, he feels to blame. And for the second time, their final message to them was that with great power must come great responsibility.

>etc
? Aside from Silvermane that's about it when it comes to super rich people. I guess you could argue Tombstone but he's just a low level thug who went up the ranks. Kraven too to some extent qualifies. But there's way more working class tier people than richfags in his gallery (Electro, Venom, Carnage, Shocker, Boomerang, Beetle, Sandman, Scorpion, Rhino, ...)
Then you've got all the science dudes who aren't rich by any means when they start out like Ock, Mysterio, Smythe, Jackal, ...
>employees
Toomes was an independant contractor.

>Peter had lost his father figure, Uncle Ben.
Who the fuck is that?

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>who are usually the super rich (Kingpin, Green Goblin etc.)
Refer to In the Raimi films, two villains were actually "rich people", both of which were Osborns, other than that, they were a scientist, a photographer, and an almost broke career crook. In the ASM films we have another scientist, a working class electrician, a Russian criminal, and one "rich guy", Surprise, it's Harry again. Spider-Man doesn't fight "the super rich" as a rule, he fights his rogues gallery, a mix of different people from different walks of life. That remains true in the MCU Spider-Man films.

>And for the second time, their final message to them was that with great power must come great responsibility.
Considering that clunky line was never actually uttered by Ben in 616, I'm not sure it's safe to assume he did in the MCU. Peter might have just figured that out on his own.

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That's also not a strong representation of the character from before or after that series, and few people would point to it as such. His parents might not be mentioned but it's not like they've been replaced as far as motivation or origin, it's not like Batman is Batmanning because he's trying to live up to the legend of The Grey Ghost. Besides which, screen-time doesn't denote whether a character is done terribly, but what is done in that screen-time, so it's not an argument. Superman killing a random civilian can be effectively writing against the character within seconds. Lastly the standards of shit adaptations from the 60's shouldn't be the same standards being held to justify shit adaptations made currently. The highlighting of Uncle Ben's complete absence from this version of Peter in addition to being replaced in importance by Stark is just a demonstration for why they've handled a character poorly. Like it if you want but defending this shit is no better than disliking it, if anything it's a disservice to the few decent writers we have left.

Don't you ever get tired of this bullshit?

they live in a disney exec's idea of a bad apartment. That sort of place, modern and clean, in queens new york, aint cheap. Plus he goes to a super preppy science school. You have to be delusional to think MCU peter is poor.