A great irony of course is that the "Dark Age of Disney" has a lot more memorable and better films than 2000s era Disney. And I was born in 1994 so if 2000s era Disney mostly isn't appealing to me then I assume it's even worse for other people.
A great irony of course is that the "Dark Age of Disney" has a lot more memorable and better films than 2000s era...
James Turner
Connor Baker
I disagree user, The only worthwhile films out of the dark ages were Fox and the Hound and Mouse Detective. The second dark age has Treasure Planet and Lilo and Stitch and those alone blow Fox and Mouse out of the water.
Daniel Martin
So the dark age includes everything after The Jungle Book and before The Little Mermaid right?
>dark age
The Aristocats - bad
Robin Hood - okay
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh - masterpiece
The Rescuers - good
The Fox and the Hound - masterpiece
The Black Cauldron - bad
The Great Mouse Detective - great
Oliver and Company - okay
>2000s
Fantasia 2000 - good
Dinosaur - bad
The Emperor's New Groove - great
Atlantis: The Lost Empire - okay
Lilo & Stitch - great
Treasure Planet - great
Brother Bear - good
Home on the Range - abomination
Chicken Little - abomination
Meet the Robinsons - good
Bolt - good
The Princess and the Frog - good
2000s would be marginally better if not for two really awful movies that are a permanent stain on Disney's record.
Jace Lee
2010s-2020s Disney is the dark age
Isaac Long
Oliver and co was absolute kino and pleb filther
Hunter Turner
>a lot more memorable and better films than 2000s
and more autistic representation
Carson James
and gay representation
Joshua Lewis
>2010s-2020s
Tangled - great
Winnie the Pooh - didn't watch
Wreck-it Ralph - great
Frozen - okay
BH6 - okay
Zootopia - good
Moana - okay
Ralph 2 - abomination
Frozen ii - didn't watch
Overall pretty okay.
Jonathan Martinez
I generally like those dark age Disney movies better because of their writing, which was more like the golden age stuff. People only call it the dark age because of the budget cuts and the introduction of xerography, a technology that got really good by the time Great Mouse Detective rolled around.
Everything after this era started to get a gay showtunes vibe that permeated the movies beyond the music - not something I'm against, just not my cup of tea.
Aaron Campbell
The Winnie the Pooh movie isn't quite as good as The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh in my opinion but it's decent.
Luis Morris
101 Dalmatians was the first Disney film to use xerox (and it shows).
Robert Cook
>Aristocats - bad
Look at this square. Bet he doesn't want to be a cat.
Luis Reed
this is legit one of the best 2D animated disney movies along with robin hood and little mermaid.
Hunter Moore
Apart from the music and villian death it was completely forgettable
Brody Thomas
Black Cauldron came out, not to mention the Rescuers. It was a fucking dark age.
Daniel Barnes
it was also vincent price's last movie too unfortunately
Owen Johnson
It does rehash Dalmatians a little bit
Christian Roberts
>it was also vincent price's last movie too unfortunately
wrong.
Ian Fisher
Filthered
Benjamin Jones
wait yeah, got it mixed with thief and cobbler
Bentley Mitchell
I prefer the sexy dog more
Mason Ward
Of course you do you degenerate
Connor Adams
I suppose thats why people call brother bear the last disney movie
everything after sucked cock
Carter Thomas
>Fantasia 2000 - good
No
>The Emperor's New Groove - great
I really wasn't
>Brother Bear - good
Nah, its boring as fuck, like Pixar's Brave
>Meet the Robinsons
Its mediocre at best
Jonathan Ross
Brother Bear is wayyy better than Brave. It looks beautiful, has a solid emotional core, and an underrated villain. It does get weighed down by some of its more lighthearted elements but it's overall quite good. Brave is just a nothing of a movie.
Jack Scott
I'd argue 101 Dalmatians, Sword in the Stone and Jungle Book are part of the 'Dark Age' as well. Walt Disney was still alive, but he was not involved as much on these films since he was preoccupied with Disneyland. More importantly though, 101 Dalmatians was the film that introduced the xerography process and got rid of inking done by hand, which defined the artstyle for 2 decades.
A case could be made for The Little Mermaid getting included as well, since it was the last film to be done on cels. In that case I would call it the 'Xerox era' rather than the dark age.
Joseph Rodriguez
I kind of agree. Xerox was an interesting idea to see paired with the contemporary style of 101D, but that's about it. They may have saved money, but some clean art would've made those films hold up so much better.
Caleb Clark
Fuck You!
Zachary Young
I think the process gets a bad rep now because of how terrible it looks on Disney's modern 'restorations', which scrubbed away detail. What was a major problem though was flagrant recycling of animation on many of that era's films, among other corner cuts.
I think by the time The Fox and the Hound came out the process had pretty much been perfected and doesn't look quite as 'sketchy' anymore, until Oliver & Co. at least. This is also when animation recycling got phased out, thanks to Woolie Reitherman leaving the studio.
Camden Price
I found fox and hound pretty weak outside of the really great last part or so
mouse detective was pretty enjoyable though, especially the big ben part
brother bear isn't that good either, at least not like I remembered
chicken little is vastly overhated
Mason Rivera
There was some bit by Milt Kahl where he bashed the style of the production and said that reusing animation didn't even save any time or money.