Who was the better fascist?

Who was the better fascist?

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Kuvira.
She did nothing wrong.

Ozai's style of godhead dictator far predates fascism. By like a couple of millennia.

Ozai was an imperialist, no?
But anyways, Kuvira

Le evil guy vs an actual dictator who improve her kingdom

Kuvira

Kuvira's someone I could see people falling in line with - especially compared to who came before and the other possible successor to the Earth Kingdom.
Ozai wasn't really as strong of a leader but he seemed to be in a position where he didn't need to be and he could suitably inspire fear in most people.

Considering I am a dirty commie and I was nodding my head with Kuvira for most of the time, easily Kuvira.
Ozai in contrast shows the raw internal contradictions of fascism, and arguably shows the issues with the ideology better. If Ozai won, the fire nation would of just fell into Civil War with no one else to conquer.

Ozai was a retard that thought torching the land he already ruled over was a good idea.
Kuvira was the good guy.

neither are fascist.

Kuvira uses plenty of fear too.

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Ozai never did anything this retarded

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it shouldn't count as facism if you're born into power

This, She only asked people to work for what they were given and had a fantastic vision to restore all, not just her own seat. The only problem was plot forced her into a WWI Germany.

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fear motivates the lazy.

girl Aang is really cute.

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Kuvira, she was the best villain and one of the best things to come out of the show.

Kuvira’s loss shouldn’t have just been so shit. Korra needed to believably talk her out of her dictatorship and conquest. This should have been like a Fallout boss in terms of the speech checks Korra needed to navigate.

I think she could have been talked down, maybe not to handing over the Kingdom to the earth king, since she is vastly more competent and beloved than him, but to like an election. Prove that her people want her and that she didn’t just usurp power. Besides her conquest for her lost land, one of her biggest detriments as a leader was the lack of legitimacy while the prince was still there.

is it comparable though?
ozai was given power from the get go and all he had to do was maintain it while kuvira had to build up her power from scratch

its like trying to compare imperial germany to fascist germany, same dickhead krauts but different systems

Kuvira had more charisma.

Kuvira's fascist goals were actually far more considerate of the Earth Kingdom as a whole than Ozai's were for the Fire Nation. Ozai was always concerned with gaining as much political power as possible. Kuvira intended on seizing all Earth Kingdom land and consolidate it under autocratic rule.

ozai isnt fascist at all but breddy based
>do nothing the entire series while living rent free in the hedas of everyone esp his kids
>then try to sodom and gomorrah the earth kingdom

Kuvira. She did in 3 years what the Fire Nation tried 100 years to do, conquer the Earth Kingdom.

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Fascism = villainy in the "minds" of normies.

Kuvira also had industrial capabilities the Fire Nation was unable to access, even as a technologically dominant power.

i want kuvira to FUCK me with a metal strapon

This. Fascism is a modern thing that's only applicable to Korra's setting, Kuvira wins by default.

based

Honestly ending of Korra should have been Korra talking kuvira down by showing her how some of the earth kingdom citizens suffer under her and how that will lead to division rather than unity. With earth kingdom now forming a constitutional monarchy.

Kuvira was fine up until marching on and attacking Republic City.
If she just called it a day there and worked on bettering her Empire, then she would have done nothing wrong.

The ideas of Fascism existed for a while before Mussolini.

It simply means unity through nationality(Though Mussolini wanted to do it with all ethnic Italians).

Fascism got corrupted by dictators trying to use it to justify hate and their idiotic prejudices

Aang decided that a Fire Nation colony in the Earth kingdom should be turned into republic city. All Fire Nation conquests should have been returned to Earth Nation rule. The only reason that didn't happen is because Aang was evil and stupid. Korra made ATLAB retroactively unwatchable.

These guys are right. No one actually knows what "facism" is these days. Facism is a post industrial reactionary political philosophy that seeks to reject both communism and capitalism with a highly nationalistic conservative social order and a planned military economy. Kuvira thus is close to being a facist.

Ozai is just a monarch. He got his job by being born and playing court politics and everything done after attaining that position is in service of maintaining and expanding his power. Ozai wasn't justifying why he was in charge or needed to rule because he was born into the job.

>Aang was evil and stupid. Korra made ATLAB retroactively unwatchable
Colonies legitimately did not want to return to the fire nation or earth kingdom

Fascism is a solidly 20th century phenomenon. So sure, it predates Mussolini by two or three decades, at most.

So what, it doesn't make Ozai better.
If anything, Oza's entire Sozin's commet amped fleet was defeated by two non-benders and Toph.

>ethnic Italians

Milanese and Sicilians are not the same people. Don't know if that means they should have separate countries, but they do not really share an ethnicity.

Can someone explain to me what Kuvira’s army was doing during the battle of republic city. They were getting ready to face the united forces but after the president saw the super weapon he orders his army to stand down because he doesn’t want them to die since they’ve lost anyway. They Kuvira try’s to get in contact with Reiko but when shit hits the fan she doesn’t order her army to engage the enemy in order to assist her? Wtf?