>"Even if I did defeat Ozai… It will be the wrong way to end the war.. A brother killing a brother to grab power… It must be you, Prince Zuko… But Azula will be there, waiting for you.”
"Even if I did defeat Ozai… It will be the wrong way to end the war...
So Iron and Azula banged, right?
ewww
June is best girl.
june looks like she walked out of a hot topic
“Uncle. I didn’t see you didn’t get hit by the tongue.”
“Shhh.”
Well he did say it would be the wrong way of ending the war not the the wrong of becoming fire lord
how did iroh know that ozai demoted the role of fire lord to second banana (by making the phoenix king title)? how fast does the news spread in the avatar universe or at least how efficient the white lotus intelligence bureau was?
fagroh
He said brother killing brother but nothing about brother killing sister. I believe iroh is just an unironic misogynist.
Sozin's Comet is the most shittily-written sequence of episodes in the entire fucking show. This is because it is almost the OLDEST plot sequence in all of ATLA. Bryke wrote the outline for Sozin's Comet long before they wrote out what would happen for the rest of the show. They chose not to deviate from this outline even when they had to account for the numerous ways in which the show itself had strayed from their original plans and in which the characters were not the same as they had originally conceived of them.
This is why numerous characters in Sozin's Comet seem to get substantially stupider than they are in the rest of the show, and why certain plot elements either seem to come out of nowhere or were prominent in the rest of the show and just get forgotten about in Sozin's Comet. This discrepancy accounts for the negative feelings many Avatar fans have towards Sozin's Comet, and the overall feeling that Book 3 is the "Return of the Jedi" of Avatar, with some high highs but an overall lower level of quality compared to Book 1 and Book 2.
>This is why numerous characters in Sozin's Comet seem to get substantially stupider than they are in the rest of the show, and why certain plot elements either seem to come out of nowhere or were prominent in the rest of the show and just get forgotten about in Sozin's Comet
Can you give some examples?
but we saw azula's breakdown step-by-step. sozin revealing she wasn't even his equal was the last straw.
don't respond to the bait replies
The entire fucking "Burn down the Earth Kingdom" plot, for starters. This makes both Azula and Ozai seem like retards. We know in particular that if Azula were better-written in that scene she would not suggest this. She went to all the trouble of capturing Ba Sing Se, and in general of taking the Earth Kingdom without firing a shot. Would she really propose mass cleansing in response to a little insurrection? It's out of character for her and feels very strange.
As far as plot elements, energybending is never once meaningfully foreshadowed in the show but it comes out of nowhere to give Aang a convenient solution to his problem with the Fire Lord. People are STILL mad about energybending, and this is because it's a shitty, sloppily-handled plot element. The recovery of the Avatar State is also badly handled and seems arbitrary and poorly established.
azula is the Judas character who exists to be the shock absorber of all sins. they even have her murder jesus. zuko would extend a hand to save zhao's life, and aang would fight to find a way to save Ozai's. but you don't say 'a brother shouldn't kill a sister to grab power, it would be wrong' if that sister is supposed to be your universe's Judas.
also the fact that zuko apparently didn't give a shit about their plan to burn down the earth kingdom until the day before when he remembered it might be kinda bad.
huh???????????
Do you guys think current day Bryke regret this line?
Is he a hyper SJW? If so, tweet at him and call him a rapist.
>The entire fucking "Burn down the Earth Kingdom" plot, for starters. This makes both Azula and Ozai seem like retards. We know in particular that if Azula were better-written in that scene she would not suggest this. She went to all the trouble of capturing Ba Sing Se, and in general of taking the Earth Kingdom without firing a shot. Would she really propose mass cleansing in response to a little insurrection? It's out of character for her and feels very strange.
I don't think they intended on burning the entire Earth Kingdom, especially not Ba Sing Se. They still had soldiers stationed there when the White Lotus attacked and it didn't look like they were trying to genocide people.
The plan was, if anything, a population and territorial reduction plan. The Fire Nation couldn't afford to stretch their forces defending every podunk town or patrolling every nowhere forest for rebels, so instead, just kill enough people that the population is easier to manage and devastate enough territory that people are forced into certain areas.
Added benefit, this serves as a very handy tool for intimidation.
And if you still think their plan was dumb, I'll remind you that the most successful empire in human history was the Mongol Empire.
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bryke, just like Zig Forums, reddit, tumblr, instagram, twitter, and wherever else people discuss avatar, would rather have you killed for implying iroh ever did anything wrong
azula going crazy wasn't all of a sudden. mai and ty lee defying her was the first step then it went all downhill from there for her.
i thought zuko reported to ozai that the earth kingom might fall but remnants (too proud and stubborn) will pose a threat to the colonists hence the scorched earth plan?
what the fuck does sozin have to do with that?
you don't remember the rant azula did when she learned she wouldn't even be on his side during the purge? she delivered victory after victory for him and she was treated like zuko (her own words). her being made fire lord while effectively making it worthless (she has to get approval from him before she can do anything) meant she was the long feng in this game.
ozai
Iroh is the Harvey Weinstein of avatar. He probabbly "played doctor" with toph too
>Iron
I had always thought energybending was a thing long before the finale. In settings like Final Fantasy games where elemental magic is a thing, there's usually a "non-element" of generic destructive energy for spells like Flare that cuts through the elements' strength/weakness balance and just hits extra-hard.
He didn't. Iroh knew Aang would return to fight Ozai. Zuko had to return to the Fire Nation so Azula couldn't just declare herself the new Firelord and keep going.
Even if Azula was with Ozai when Aang defeated him, she would have to return to the Fire nation to claim the throne, and Zuko and Azula would have had to fight then.
Them burning the Earth Kingdom didn’t seem like a reach to me. Azula was increasingly losing her mind, and became more and more desperate to prove her importance, so when it made sense she would tell her father to just wipe clean whatever’s pissing him off.
In turn, Ozai was a straight up Nazi-tier ruler. His “gift” to the other kingdoms was to control them. To him, them resisting is an insult. So him agreeing to burn it down just felt like a “fuck it, let’s do it, they had their chance” moment.
I do agree about the energy bending though. The final fight in general was a letdown because it never felt like Ozai was even a threat beyond Aang being a pacifist. There’s no point building Ozai up for three seasons just for his only fight to make him seem like a chump.
that isn't what energybending is though