WE ARE THE BERENSTAIN BEARS!

WE ARE THE BERENSTAIN BEARS!

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Berenstein*

>muh mandela effect
you're just retarded.

Isn't Bearenstein?

No, it's Berenstein's Monster

Some little bears have BIG EARS.

Berenstain is off-putting, sure, but I can see how people could get the name slightly wrong.

Here is an ACTUAL Mandela Effect. See this Fruit of the Loom logo? Look familiar? Well guess what. The cornucopia in the logo never existed. That's right, it's always been just the fruit. How can so many people remember such a random thing that never existed?
It fucks me up thinking about it.

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Also, some more evidence here: An album from 1973 parodying the famous FotL cornucopia... which never existed...

Forgot the image. Whoops.

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brainlet can't comprehend multiple universes and shifting, color me surprised

I think it is nothing more than being a thing one doesn't ponder much at all. The Fruit of the Loom logo? One could add a lot of noise to it before in wouldn't recognize it

And this thread also makes me realize something. I've seen the Berenstain Bears so much in my life. But they've never crossed the line into being somewhat I've thought about. And so, their name itself, didn't leave enough imprint to overtake the much more common "Stein" suffix.

Shannon's information theory may just explain all cognition. I fear that. I respect that.

I completely agree with you on the Berenstain thing, but I, and so many others, specifically remember a cornucopia in that logo.
Why would so many people remember such a random thing as a cornucopia? There is nothing in the actual logo that would make one think there was a cornucopia missing from it.
The Berenstain thing is literally just the difference of one letter being off. I remember it as Berenstein too, but I can write that off as my own faulty memory.
There's no explanation for the FotL cornucopia, however.

Where did you grow up?

Missouri. Born in 98.

It's because as you grew older you became familiarized with the cornucopia imagery and so associated it with the vaguely-remembered fruit logo you saw as a child.

I could write off the Mandela Effect if it was a few isolated cases of misremembering something, but you have so many people who say that one thing in particular about an object, media franchise, or world event is amiss. I was too young at the time but if I had vivid memories of people reporting Mandela's death then I'd strongly believe that something is wrong.

I'm curious because the image of a pile of fruit is often associated with a cornucopia. Look at many still lifes of fruit. The cornucopia is there.

It is even associated heavily with the American creation story of Thanksgiving and the pilgrims.

These are good points, and I could believe them if there weren't so many people who have the exact same memory. This logo is a PERFECT recreation of what I remember. The shading of the inside of the cornucopia and all. I have even asked several family members how they remember the logo, and a couple of them specifically mentioned the cornucopia. Not to mention cornucopias are usually associated with vegetables, not fruit. Though I understand where you're coming from.

the thinker is what sold me on the mandela effect

I don't find that one all that convincing, bit this one is really eerie for me.

I definitely remember the Mona Lisa's expression as being kind of solemn and reserved, and the interest of the painting being that it's hard to tell what her expression is conveying, like the Mona on the right.
But the Mona on the left, who is clearly smirking, is the real one.

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which one, motherfuckers?

>I could believe them if there weren't so many people who have the exact same memory
Cornucopias have been part of Western cultural imagery for literally thousands of years and by the time you're an adult you're bound to have been exposed to them, inculcated them, and then conflated them with the logo from your childhood.
Same with Berenstain/Berenstein, the -stein surname suffix is so endemic to the English-speaking world that it's inevitable many of us would retroactively insert it into the original name out of sheer familiarity.
Here's another fun one to ponder: Everyone know Bambi's mom gets shot but some have a memory of actually *seeing* her get shot on screen. This never happens, of course, and the explanation is very simple: We see *Bambi* get shot on screen later on in the movie. Add a couple of decades and voila, false memory.

See, I'd always been taught that Da Vince took a shitton of time getting the smile right, so I always 'remembered' it having a smile.

Ah, mandingo effect

Okay then. Know that I'm engaging with you in good faith here.

My argument is this:

There are 330 million people living in the US. It's an unfathomable number. This is just the US mind you. We both speak English which is the lingua Franca of the modern age. With the internet it is very easy to connect with others. Trivially simple.

If you have, let us say, 100 people commonly agreeing with you, this feels like a quorum to us as humans. Our brains are simply not that different from our tribal selves a few thousand years back.

The odds of finding 100 people, with internet, and who are bored and willing to misremembered a cornucopia, a symbol commonly associated with piles of fruit to the point that it's etymology implies it, approaches 1.

The counter argument, is that there is a physical system in place that allows a person to swap minds to other realities where things are subtly different from their base reality, and that you yourself experienced it along with many other people, and you found each other to discuss it.

I think the former is more plausible.

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People have been writing about the Mona Lisa's *smile* for literally centuries, user.

MUUMUU BEAR

i remember a teacher explaining the correct spelling of the name back when i was young enough for the books.

I'm totally with you, but again, I think the FotL ME is far too specific to lump in with the Berenstain ME
I see what you're getting at, and it's a good argument. That's why I think most MEs are total bullshit, even if I remember it the same way millions of others do, like with Berenstain, or maybe even with the Mona Lisa.
But the cornucopia is just on another level for me, especially since I've asked many family members and friends, and several of them also remembered the cornucopia (most of the time somebody will remember it and just think that the logo with only fruit is the "updated logo").
I even remember staring at the logo as a kid, imagining crawling into the cornucopia. What also boggles my mind is that people claim (of course, I take this with a grain of salt) that they literally learned what a cornucopia is by asking their parents what the thing on the FotL logo is.
It's just too bizarre and oddly specific. There's usually a better explanation with most MEs, but with this one, the only explanation is "Cornucopias are often associated with piles of fruit." I just think it's a lousy explanation