Black Mask

How gimpy do you prefer your Black Mask?

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OP here, additional question. Is he gay in the comics? I remember hearing something about him being gay in the Birds of Prey movie. Never watched it though.

The reference is obvious but it's just Black Mask having control over Bizarro. Rebirth Red Hood is pretty good, definitely better than the New 52 series.

>Is he gay in the comics?
Not at all.

He's very into torture.

looks like a red skull rip off he looked way better when he was first introduced

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Nobody ever seems to want to tackle the idea that he’s the big leagues in Gotham villainy. The guy is more organized, professional, and squared away than almost all the other villains. The Batman, surprisingly enough, did a great job showing it, and even Brave and the Bold showed that he’s one of the more threatening enemies. He should always feel like that Batman villain that is more sane and set than the others, which makes him more focused.

>Nobody ever seems to want to tackle the idea that he’s the big leagues in Gotham villainy.
Even if that's true I find it hard to accept given his lack of powers or well-defined gimmicks. Though that might just be due to lack of exposure

He also has a thing for torture.

>Lack of powers
Joker, Two Face, Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, non-Venom Bane, Harley Quinn, Mad Hatter, etc.

>well-defined gimmicks
His cult of masks or the fact that he’s insanely organized and efficient in the crime game without the clues seem more than enough.

He was supposed to be a big deal, a mobster version of Batman who had abusive parents he killed and who ran his parents company into the ground and had his version of Catwoman (a cheap floozy named Circe) dump him when he hit rock bottom and lost everything. Then Crisis happened and Monech got bounced from the Batman books.

Originally he wasn't disfigured by Chuck Dixon (who brought him back) made him be a burn victim from his first fight with Batman and made him a rival mob boss of little renown.

Brubaker used him in Catwoman as a full-on sadist but he changed artists after a couple of issues so he went from his classic look with the original artist to being N-word Red Skull with a full-on skull face literally between two issues with ZERO explanation.

N-Word Red Skull Black Mask became the default, as did Brubaker's bullshit take on Black Mask, which jetisoned his entire backstory and made him a generic edgelord sadist who tortures people to death or until they go irrevocably insane. Winnick liked him, so much so that he made him king of crime after War Games.

He ultimately got killed by Holly (Catwoman's barely legal prostitot BFF) when she was filling in for Catwoman, but New 52 brought him back and changed him.

First, he was a gimp hood wearing low level crime boss with vague mind controlled powers linked to the masks his henchmen wore and then, during Year of the Villains, he became a full-on changeling; granted one who had to have the fingers and eyes of his victims to assimilate to perfectly impersonate them.

Rebirth quasi restored parts of Black Mask's background (he ran a former cosmetic company) and a recent Supergirl/Batwoman story called "Faceless" revealed that he was back in the cosmetics game; having secretly taken over a company and pretending to be a reclusive female executive running it, all the while kidnapping the homeless to use for illegal medical testing for other companies.

Year of the Villain gave him ambiguous shapeshifting powers.

But I can't understate how much Brubaker's usage of him and War Games (where he tortures Spoiler to death) rendered him radioactive with a huge chunk of comic fans due to Brubaker reducing him to a psycho obsessed with torture and War Games having him kill Stephanie.

So he started out as Proto-Hush and kept then became as lame as Hush

You forgot the part where after Brubaker killed Black Mask off, Winnick had Jerimiah Arkham become Black Mask II and how he hallucinated a trio of villains who were his henchmen/aids

Isn't the mask made out of his parents coffin? Edgy, I like it.

While we are on the topic of Batman villains, tell me more about Killer Moth. The only thing I know about him is the Batgirl memes

Pre-Crisis Killer Moth is an unnamed criminal, alias Cameron Van Cleer, who after a rather successful career as a regular criminal takes up supervillainy. His primary gimmick was that he'd fight Batman on the behalf of criminals in exchange for a portion of their loot, but he also had several independent supervillain schemes. He's the original anti-Batman supervillain and pretty much fell by the wayside as too campy and silly once O'Neil took over. Post-Crisis Killer Moth is Drury Walker, a failed nobody of a supervillain who sold his soul to Neron and was morphed into the monstrous Charaxas. He later died during Infinite Crisis. After his death several different people took up the costume, but none were named. Nu52 and presumably post-Rebirth Killer Moth is also Drury Walker.

He's at his best when he's all edgy

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I always think he's good stand in when they're doing other shit with Penguin. If you're doing Iceberg Only/Informant Penguin then Black Mask and Great White work well as the stand in Organised Crime leader.
Personally I like Penguin being the guy who absorbs most organised crime once a story gets passed Young Batman defeats the mob.
It usually falls apart when you have 5 or 6 of the Mob Boss Supervillains active at once but you're not doing a Mob War story

Hush was riddler(better than the comic tripe) punishing villians for mocking him

>le creepy bdsm sadist blackmask
absolutely shit taste

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