With Elsa ruling over the spirits at the end of Frozen 2, and given the Northuldra worship them...

With Elsa ruling over the spirits at the end of Frozen 2, and given the Northuldra worship them, doesn't that sort of fulfills Runeard's plan of conquering the Enchanted forest?

Even the latest book makes it appear as if the forest was part of Arendelle now.

Wasn't he the bad guy?

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>doesn't that sort of fulfills Runeard's plan of conquering the Enchanted forest?
In a way, yes. His granddaughters now have complete control over the land.
>Wasn't he the bad guy?
No, he was just scared about magic. A fear I would argue was justified given what happened to his family and kingdom.

His methods were bad, his goal wasn’t; wanting control of the magic forest, either for the resources or to prevent it being used against Arendelle, is reasonable but literally backstabbing a man who was willing to side with you anyway wasn’t. The fact that he didn’t even consider a royal marriage, when that was exactly what happened anyway and would have guaranteed control, was stupid of him.

he did trick them with the dam of racism and killed their leader though

Funny how his family was rewarded with a goddess to rule not only over the enchanted forest savages, but over the magic beings he was so afraid of in the first place as well.

David bloodied his hands so Solomon could raise the temple.

>Elsa ruling over the spirits at the end of Frozen 2
wasn't she just another spirit?

Why do the Northhuldra look like North American natives? Arendelle is a Nordic kingdom, if they’re supposed to be the fantasy counterpart to the Saami it makes no sense for them to be brown.
Do American writers not comprehend that not every indigenous group is nonwhite?

She treats them as if they were her pets and, at least Nokk and the Earth giants, are shown bowing to her

>His granddaughters now have complete control over the land.
Gotta admit that co-rulers thing from the book made me way more happy than I was expecting a book about a cute little salamander would do

even funnier when you consider it was a gift made because a northuldra girl ran away from the forest and married the enemy
the spirits are complete assholes

Runeard did nothing wrong.

The bridge thing was total bullshit in the end.

>The fact that he didn’t even consider a royal marriage, when that was exactly what happened anyway
Curious about what do you consider analogous to a royal marriage about the current situation with Elsa and the enchanted forest.

magic is for assholes.

fuck magic.

based

I’m talking about his kid hooking up with the closest thing to a Northuldra princess, resulting in one of his granddaughters becoming essentially the magical/spiritual heir to the throne of their people.

The spirits used to be equals, but during her trip to Ahtohallan, Elsa changes the rules to make herself the leader. After that, we see the other spirits obeying her commands and literally bowing to her when they previously resisted her.

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Oh, I see.
To be honest I often forget Iduna is Northuldra.

Kristoff is the only Saami, the Northuldra are entirely invented (even though their culture is based on Saami)

>pic
The fact that was all her doing and not Ahtohallan changes that scene completely, she's not finding her true purpose, she's taking it by force.

The bridge was some bullshit Honeymaren came up with to try to impress Elsa. She's literally the only Northuldra who mentions it, in fact she's the only Northuldra who mentions the fifth spirit thing also.

Yeah, it's pretty amazing. I thought it was her being blessed, but it's more like she found the spirits' power source and absorbed it for herself.

He was the bad guy, but he needed to be. Elsa only got her powers because of Iduna's good deed of "saving her enemy" during the fighting.
No war = no magic gift. Peace doesn't create power.

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Frozen 3 in 2023

>"Step into your power" was literal
bravo

She then reaches Ahtohallan and is so convinced she must be the fifth spirit-bridge the girl from the night before was talking about, that she just absorbs its magical power, creates a fancy new dress for herself and declares she speaks for the spirits now.

>Honeymaren is responsible for everything because her fairytale gave Elsa delusions of grandeur - delusions she made real
We're all living in Elsa's story now

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CUTE

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