Has the "masked/unknown character turns out to be somebody we've never seen before" thing ever ended with a satisfying payoff?
Has the "masked/unknown character turns out to be somebody we've never seen before" thing ever ended with a satisfying...
No, unless the mask hides a hideous face or a shoking scar.
The only time this has happened in a way I found satisfying is when Lex and Flash switch bodies in JLU and Lex takes off the mask and has no idea who he's looking at. Really funny too.
No. The only thing worse is when it's revealed to be a character that was introduced the same season as a masked antagonist. Like Zoom in season 2 of Flash. Or Alchemy in season 3 of Flash.
Yes of course, but that level of writing skill is not something you will see in a cartoon. Let alone a cartoon for children.
Blue Spirit was a good reveal
Which was the bigger offender, or the author of the journals in Gravity Falls?
At least the Author had a bunch of backstory and foreshadowing. People here were calling it all the way back in Season 1.
It usually involves getting to know the person before he removes his mask. Like the mask reveals something unexpected like he is actually really old, he is actually a woman, or he is actually a normal human in world of super humans.
This. A mask either hides an identity or shields an abnormality.
If it hides neither, then it's pointless.
Star wars
People here will defend hiding Ozai's face for two seasons and it turning out he's just a normal looking dude.
Avatar fans are hypocrites, what else would you expect.
Different case, it's not like Ozai himself was hiding his face on purpose. What would've you expected, anyways? For him to have a scar too, as an evil parallel to Zuko?
THIS
Tangent but I love that and laugh every time it happens. Other similar example is when new52 batman is revealed as Bruce Wayne to Hal and he asks "who the hell is Bruce Wayne?"
Makes the universe feel that little bit bigger- its unrealistic to expect everyone to know who everyone else is.
Honestly it was just weird and left me puzzled why they bothered hiding his face in the first place.
Sure it's dramatic, but not dramatic enough to really add anything.
Remember when the live action movie revealed Ozai right away, then a couple of scenes later, had him shrouded in shadows and mystery for no reason?
This works well if removing the mask humanizes the character. He shifts from a spooky mysterious presence to a fallible human, and he can't intimidate the heroes or impress his followers when they see him as just a man.
Can't think of a time I've seen that in a cartoon though.
It could have worked if after the face reveal they would have changed the audience's perception of Ozai by fleshing him out more, but he just disappears from the plot until the Invasion and then again until the finale.
I'm still disappointed Ozai never got to flex on any characters in the show. 3 seasons of build up and he gets one fight which he spends half of it running from Aang.
that's literally what happens in Korra
They probably could've fleshed him out more, but the show already had too many nuanced characters so you needed some genetic evil overlord to balance things out. Can't have your audience sympathize with the end boss
That just made Hal sound stupid. Bruce Wayne is supposed to be pretty famous.
Can't say I remember a thing about the movie, lad! Aside from them calling Aang "Oong"
I had to think about this for a moment because I seriously didn't remember or think of it as them "hiding his face." Just seems like a good visual shorthand for how impersonal and heartless he is, how "above" those around him he seems as the ruler. Especially if we're seeing him from Zuko's memory, not seeing his face really emphasizes that he can't be reasoned with, he's (seemingly) this monster of a man, and it's only when he finally becomes a character that he becomes human and sort of not that scary, just an ordinary douche.
Who would his equivalent be IRL? Someone with the resources/physique to be a crime-fighting superhero, but too beneath suspicion?
This guy gets it.
This guy also gets it.
But user it turned out to be us
Well at that point you need the Comet or Aang is just gonna style on any single bender 1v1 no problem despite being rather weak as an Avatar
if you want to go for the "bullshit symbolism" angle, his face is only revealed after Zuko is unbanished and reclaims his honor. Before that, he might as well have not even had a father
Doom? He bitches all the time about how the mask is to hide his disfigured face but all it is just a small scratch, just shows how insecure he is
there should have been some assassination attempt on him by water or earth benders and he just wipes the floor with them
I was ok with Rorschach, a lot of racists will say blah blah ginger, blah not american, ginger blah blah.
Screw those racists, i liked him.
Unfortunatly it's hard to make a normal human face as cool as a mask.
You would have to give them a burn (like v gor vendetta) or a scar/s, or glass eye, maybe metal replacement teeth, usually just make them mid age, give them some wrinkles and crows feet eyes, squinted eyes, big eyebrows, detailed lips, cheek bones, jawline, ectra.
Make them look like they have a long backstory, like they have seen and done some shit.
It's fine as long as they don't focus on the reveal as anything special