>make villain with some depth and morally agreeable goals
>make them drop it all just for a climactic battle with the heroes
Why do they keep doing this?
If you make them too agreeable/sympathetic, people won't want the good guys to win.
Because the writers are hacks who can't or don't give themselves enough time to transition the character from sympathetic to psychotic.
Because they aren’t actually morally agreeable, they’re just charismatic and you’re getting caught up in their persona
Thanos is hung up on his particular solution to resource scarcity because he’s a salty bitch that’s mad that his home planet called him crazy for wanting to murder half the population, so he goes around the galaxy murdering half the population as a “I told you so”, acting as if it’s the only possible solution and he’s it’s sole architect
Amon is projecting his anger at his father into a form of amputation/lobotomy so that he can feel like he has control over the world and the people in it. There is a reason his ability is bloodbending, the only form of bending that can literally bend people.
They have an inkling of altruism and ideals, but it’s corrupted with their personal Grudges and pettiness
That’s why they’re villains: it’s not enough to have good intentions but also to have the emotional clarity to see those good intentions through with good methods
Because they're not morally agreeable goals, you're just an easy mark.
Because they're villains, retard. If they were morally agreeable they would be the protagonist. Perhaps it is your morals who are misaligned, and not the morals of purple people that do not exist.
>Amon
>morally agreeable goals
>Lotor shows up, acts like an evil jackass
>user is shocked when he ends up being an evil jackass
>Achieve peace and prosperity by finding alternate energy source and ending forced occupation
>Create a universe where there would be enough for everyone
>Promote equality in a society with people that are born with powers and those without
Pretty sure if you told most people these they'd see them as good causes.
>Morally agreeable goals
Are you sure about that? For like any of these guys? Lotor was fucking Char, Thanos was a genocidal fuckwit with incredibly flawed reasoning, and Amon was a hypocritical, power hungry dick.
It's all just motivation for them to get punched out by the hero. Thanos's goals, while fascinating, were not created to explore the morality of eugenics. They were created to put him in conflict with the Avengers and nothing more. The Avengers never come up with a solution to Thanos's over-population problem. That problem is ignored once everyone comes back. It's presented unintentionally as a solution that works, (they say Gamora's planet is thriving after Thanos killed half the people on it). Thanos should have been proven wrong on top of being punched out. But they forgot or rather they didn't care about that as he had served his purpose.
the reddit complaint that Endgame Thanos was worse because he like didn't compliment the Avengers enough or whatever has always been shit
He was using people's dislike for benders to his advantage. And he brought up a lot of points. Then the council started rounding up nonbenders and that just made all benders look bad. He talked about taking power away from benders in various ways. He didn't even kill anyone which helped his public image. Then he was unmasked and it was revealed he was getting revenge for his father that he didn't even like.
>guy who kills people for his plan to kill people, is now fine with killing lots of people in a big battle
But he never made any demands besides cancelling pro-bending because it celebrates benders, which is stupid. The guy never tried to get a dialogue started about fixing things, he just jumped to blowing shit up and taking away bending.
>morally agreeable goals
No way, fag. Also Thano's deal made sense, EG Thanos didn't go through IW Thanos character development and they had to change the focus to the Avengers cause this would be the last time at least for Cap, Tony and Widow.
>last time for Widow
Oh shit, forgot about it. Well, chronological last time I hope.
He was holding rallies and condemning the acts of Korra and the council. He runs a group called the Equalists. And he was operating in Republic City long before Korra got there.
>People are born with abilities that are like an extension of their own body
>Nope, can't have that.
Bending is so normal that having it doesn't make you the special exception - there are hundreds of jobs that you can't do without them. The entire society is built around people having these abilities. Also unlike Mutants, bending is a well-documented phenomenon that there are contingencies for if someone tries to abuse it.
If anything, Amon was a threat BECAUSE he had a rare bending ability. Society can function quite well with the four tradition styles being used every day.
>If they were morally agreeable they would be the protagonist
Protagonist is the character by which most part of the story is told/shown, a protagonist can be a villain, an anti-hero, literally any kind of person
So Thanos is the protagonist in Infinity War
I don’t know who the dark elf is, but with Thanos and Amon the outcomes both work and fail for different reasons respectively. See Amon’s character sucked because the first half of the season spent too much time showing he had a valid argument, and not enough time showing why Korra’s world view was better. In order to compensate for this lack of prioritization, they reveal Amon to be a fraud and a hypocrite, in order to invalidate his argument and force the audience to side with Korra without her having to change.
Thanos’ arc on the other hand, works much better because it deliberately unravels his character by showing his development in reverse. Thanos’ whole idea is inherently flawed, but we’re taken in in Infinity War because he seems so convinced and compelling. He makes you think there’s more to him than just a warmonger. However, in Endgame, when we see the younger Thanos, we see him as he truly is, an egotist with a god/martyr complex whose pride was wounded. He’s not actually that deep, but the efforts of “old” Thanos gave him a mystique which “young” Thanos didn’t achieve, so we more easily recognized the bullshit posturing.
TL;DR. Amon was a hypocrite because story needed Korra to be right. Thanos was a hypocrite because that’s who he really was deep down.
thats how real world villains are, user
they play themselves up like they're the hero, both to people around them and to themselves in their own head
then the heat gets turned up, they get backed into a corner, or maybe they get comfortable to a point where they feel like they don't need to perform anymore, and their true nature starts to show through.
Because for Thanos and Amon at least, beneath their noble goals are just two crazy assholes.
>Create a universe where there would be enough for everyone
That's leaving out the full scale genocide that would destroy a planets economy and infrastructure.
Same for Lotor.
>>Achieve peace and prosperity by finding alternate energy source and ending forced occupation>Create a universe where there would be enough for everyone>Promote equality in a society with people that are born with powers and those without
>Do all of this through genocide and mass killings and claim to be without sin.
Sure, of course ...
They don't. You're just a stupid contrarian faggot.
Hey, Thanos's final goal was pretty deep potentially. He was going to pretty much rewrite morality and wiping out the universe wouldn't be considered wrong because no one would be there to judge him.
Also these stories don't focus on the conflict of ideology between the characters, but rather, on the efforts they make to achieve them. No one ever bothers to refute Thanos because it's not what matters.
In real life there are no villains, only people you convinced yourself to be your enemies. Just like they did about you. Ironic.