All those struggles... I learned from them and I grew

It went to shit the moment they admitted that Steven wouldn't abuse Connie. After that any backbone they had to make an actual, impactful ending was gone.

Because you can't have a dindu nuffin wrong black character with any misery dealt to them!

This doesn't retcon anything you dumb motherfuckers. You know the only difference between OG and Future? Steven is actually paying attention to his problems and other people are noticing. That's it. The original series is full of this stuff but you retards ignore that and just call Steven a gary stu or whatever you mouthbreathers talk about these days because you're not interested in being correct, just in the right.

>Steven is actually paying attention to his problems
He always did when it was possible. He always faced (and solved) his problems before Future. He only put off his problems when there was nothing else that could be done.

>What Steven was supposed to do to Connie

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>Steven is actually paying attention to his problems and other people are noticing.
That also happened in the original series. The crystal gems where always worried about him. There was a whole episode where they took him to a barn to cheer him up after he and Connie got a fight.
You SU fags often forget that Steven DID get help in the original series and did have some parts of his childhood that where great. But since you like Future you have to pretend now that he didnt.
I cant imagine anyone re watching the whole show and NOT thinking Future is a load of bullshit. You have to be braindead or the biggest fanboy in the planet to be like that

The series seems to act like that's true though, I don't see them challenging that view

One of the anons you replied to was trying to explain why it's not a retcon actually. Neither of you convinced me though

I'm a huge sufag and I realize that, SUF is extremely off-putting because of this issue. Whenever I watch the original show I want to forget it even exists.

This is important, and it's good you noticed. There's a big tonal change between the "fully actualized" Steven at the end of the Movie, where he's effectively invulnerable to Spinel's attacks and sings a song about being beyond fighting, and the Steven towards the end of Future, where he feels lost and out of control due to his pink outbursts.

It can help to think about it as like a soldier at the end of his tour, filled with pride as he receives marks and decoration from his superiors, and the same soldier several months into home life where he realizes that 4th of July fireworks are triggering involuntary panic attacks and regrets ever serving in the first place.

Literally re-enacting Pink Diamonds tantrum, down to permanently mentally/physically scarring his closest friend, would be too fucked up. No way back from that.

I feel the opposite, Future was wonderful and daring in how it showed the main protagonist succumb to trauma as a direct result of the original series. I cried during Steven's breakdown, once you're in your 30s you can easily see Steven's intervention as analogous to your family confronting you about anything you kept secret out of shame, a drug problem, an affair, abusive habits, ect.

It didn't actually make him worse. He's an angsty hormonal teenager and that's why he feels this way.
It would be interesting to see as spin off miniseries or comic years in the future (or sooner, considering Rebecca Sugar's ruined vacation plans) showing some of Steven's life and adventures as an adult, with him reconciling with how his life as a kid was like from an adult standpoint.

He's always had personal problems though, the difference in Future is that he never faces them when in the original he did

This. This is what Connie should have looked like in her first mission. Maybe with one less arm idunno

Even if I thought this was a convincing explanation I would still be disappointed because it heavily devalues the original show

Now this is poetry in motion. Such a shame Connie never had to suffer this a million times over. The entire show, from beginning to end, would be enriched by including some patrician loli ryona.

>Being correct
>just in the right
This post is full of bait or just actual autism my dude.
Stay mad that future is full of retcons/ telling how to consume media.

If you related to it that’s fine, but it only works when you remove context and 5 years of content, from the tv show, to the movie, to comics and videogames that said the exact opposite. You people enjoy Future in a vacuum because once put as a whole it’s nonsense.
>daring
I wouldn’t call any show that fixes mature problems in a timeskip daring regardless of its adult themes.

A lot of people on Zig Forums insisted that they wanted Steven Universe to be 'dark, mature and have suffering'. Sugar gave them what they wanted in SUF and they still complain.

Why are you assuming the people who wanted it to be like that are also the ones complaining about it being like that?

You can make things dark and edgier and not retcon previous development. Nobody would have cared if the dark elements introduced made sense with the universe and previous events, but changing everything that came beforehand makes this a piece of shit.

>Every Connie episode has at least one scene where she is visibly wounded
Would've made her shitfit over Steven taking on the mantle of Rose Quartz a little more believable.

>It can help to think about it as like a soldier at the end of his tour, filled with pride as he receives marks and decoration from his superiors, and the same soldier several months into home life where he realizes that 4th of July fireworks are triggering involuntary panic attacks and regrets ever serving in the first place.
Now what character in the show actually fits that description to a tea and was completely wasted, therefore invalidating the themes from the entire series? Hmm?

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Oh god fucking this.
As a whole, this package is fucking tipped over, kicked, and dropped on a porch before it shows up to your house.

The only and ONLY thing 'dark, mature, and has suffering' is Steven himself and they did not to this through a natural process, they took a moment to sit the audience down and said that every moment that was honestly pretty harmless and said 'Steven was TRAUMATIZED AND GIVEN PTSD AND HAS AUTISM AND MAYBE EVEN THE GAYS FROM THIS MOMENT'
That's how SUF handles it and it's not well written at all.

Jasper ain't no PTSD victim, she wanted to rape a blue gem for power but got raped instead and became a sub.
That said, she is indeed wasted potential, but she's bad because she got focus of this wasted potential and was a CLEAR setup for what happens in Future, with how they retcon how she was definitely suppose to be Quartz Sisters with Amethyst.

>Jasper ain't no PTSD victim
Bitch, shes visibly shocked when she was stuck and couldn't move in the fight against Steven and especially shocked when Steven put the spiked barrier up to leave home. Lapis is the one who raped her, Jasper at worst just wanted to form a team rocket and kill the crystal gems.
However, given the awful treatment of her throughout the series, I can't blame you for not realizing any of it.

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