13 years later

13 years later

still not undone

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Peter and MJ are back, Miles is the teen Spider-Man that Marvel has wanted for decades, so all that's left is to get Peter and MJ married and she gets knocked up. I doubt Spencer has the capability to do that so expect them to stay a couple for several years.

Miles comes off some guy who would be into drinking period blood smoothies with rotten banana chunks in it since he’s black

It never will be undone, and for good reason.

They are dating again, close enough.

It's slowly being undone. Apparently, the reason Black Cat went nuts was because she forgot Peter was Spider-Man. Soon as he showed her who he was, everything just clicked.

>good reason.
Such as?

Marvel's direction for Spider-Man does not involve him being married. Marrying off a character or giving them a kid or whatever tends to close a lot of doors and makes a parallel 'vision' for that character across all media go out the window. It can also be jarring for new readers/fans.

>the reason Black Cat went nuts was because she forgot Peter was Spider-Man

No, it was because Otto broke her teeth and threw her in jail while he was still in Peter's body and being Spider-Man. She thought he betrayed her.

You said good reason.
You gave a shit one.

Spencer is working on it. Peter has a ring, and happily with MJ right now. He's waiting for the right moment.

You're ignoring the other issue, one more complicated; How the fuck do we retcon Sins Past?

She already forgave him and stopped being a crime boss before he showed her his face.

When your goal is to make money and capitalize on countless Spider-Man backpacks, lunch boxes, movies, cartoons, video games, coloring books, etc. those are very, very good reasons.

Apparently him being married puts some writers in a corner. Meanwhile people like me that grew up with him married it was like an amazing marriage. It inspired me to marry a redhead irl.

>How the fuck do we retcon Sins Past?
The kids were clones all along...

There's your retcon.

No they aren't, you can sell Spider-Man regardless of him being married or not.
It worked for twenty fucking years and Peter being out of high school since the 60s hasn't stopped them from putting him back in other universes and adaptations.

Notice OMD came out right as Spider-Man was moving from comic book icon to media icon? That isn't a coincidence.

I agree you can sell Spider-Man no matter what, but the goal of Marvel Comics is to sell comics. It's easier to do that on a regular basis when everything 'matches'. It also removes any confines marriage brings - letting creative types play with love interests, status quos, etc.

I think marriage in general is an archaic ideal, but I don't actively convince people not to do it.

>There will never be a comfy show about Peter, Ben, and Kaine getting together to fight crime, and growing closer into a real family


Is it really necessary that spider-men are not allowed to be happy?

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>Letting creative plays with love interests, status quo.
Oh yeah like when after OMD they gave Peter multiple forgettable girlfriends or when they litteraly transformed him into Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark lite ?

>Is it really necessary that spider-men are not allowed to be happy?

Yes.

Well that's boring.

That doesn't explain Gwen's confession to MJ

>Peter and MJ are back
One more day fucked up way more than that, it character assassinated Peter beyounder rapair.

Besides, short lived clickbait relationships like this one are cancer and straight up bad writing "date, break up, date break up, date and break up" is a shitty move to clickbait while preserving the status quo.

Meanwhile.

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>I think marriage in general is an archaic ideal
That's because you're a bit of a cunt. Nothing inherently wrong with that, though. Same with vegans.

>right as Spider-Man was moving from comic book icon to media icon?
Damn, I didn't know OMD came out in the 1970s.

Imagine the comfiness:
>Peter is happily married with MJ
>Has two children
>Is a replacement teacher
>Kaine is redempting himself and is considered part of the family.
>Being Spiderman still sucks but Peter doesn't care.
>Not part of a team, is free like a butterfly.
>Occasionaly visit the FF with his family, his children playing with Reed's and Susan's.
>He retires peacefully in his fifty's.

Perfect ending for Peter Parker

>Marrying off a character or giving them a kid or whatever tends to close a lot of doors and makes a parallel 'vision' for that character across all media go out the window.
And somehow Batman comic still outsells Spider-Man, besides is not like anything new ever happened to Spider-Man this last couple of decades, just generic and repetitive arcs without any lasting change.

The worst thing about it is that you can't fix OMD.
OMD is awesome because it's the perfect character assasination of all time.

hmmmm. So I'll level with you. I have no idea what's going on here. I don't follow the comic. I'm really here more for the webcomics and newer stuff. The older classic comic characters have such a daunting backlong....

But anyway.
1) There is an absolute WEALTH of stories in comics.
2) AI voice acting (deepfakes for voices) is really coming along. They suck at adjusting tones and things like laughter, but dialog is easy. They sound like the character they're targetting.
3) Automating animation has come a long way from just tweening curves between two frames.

... What would you comic book guy say to AI-generated movie or show productions of comics?

Honeslty, Mephisto being turned into a deus ex machina is far worse than the character assassination, just like Mephisto saving Dr Strange ass after he destroyed the universe.