Is there anything lazier than just tweaking old mythology for your own fiction...

Is there anything lazier than just tweaking old mythology for your own fiction? Hell Marvel's Thor isn't even ginger like he's supposed to be!

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>Hell Marvel's Thor isn't even ginger like he's supposed to be!
The only source we have of Thor being ginger is some writings made by CHRISTIANS that, as we know well, thought ginger was a synonym to savage and dangerous and either wanted to denigrate Thor's image or just appropriating it with someof their stereotypes.
So thinking Thor was a ginger is an unofficial interpretation like other norse mythologies interpretations.

Marvel's Thor was created by two working class New Yorkers working on a deadline in the 1960s. I'm not sure what information on Norse mythology would have even been readily available to them, and am frankly amazed that he even has a hammer.

Isn't the problem with Norse mythology that a lot of it wasn't written down, or had conflicting details?

>Is there anything lazier than just tweaking old mythology for your own fiction?
I guess Superman is a lazy character because he is Space Moses?

There are German gingers?

>I'm not sure what information on Norse mythology would have even been readily available to them, and am frankly amazed that he even has a hammer.
You see user there were these places called "Libraries", places filled with books on various subjects you could take home for a period of time. Crazy I know.

The difference is that he's not literally Moses, unless Moses was from space and could kill Pharaohs with heat vision

>Isn't the problem with Norse mythology that a lot of it wasn't written down, or had conflicting details?
Yes, that's the point.
The only sources we have are either scripts made from christians voyagers or just folktales and symbols.
We know Thor had an hammer.
His hairs?
He could have been blonde and he could have been ginger as he could have been brown.

The sad part is most children growing up today really wouldn't have any concept of libraries.

>The difference is that he's not literally Moses, unless Moses was from space and could kill Pharaohs with heat vision
He is space moses.
Space Moses can heat vision

So this is like the tenth thread shitting on Thor in the last three days. Someone really has a bug up their ass about him lately.

But he's not literally Moses. See my point? One has thematic likeness, where the other (Thor) is literally a public domain character tweaked to fit into Marvel comics.
>We can shitpost about Superman and other shit endlessly but suddenly Thor is off limits.

Obviously its a seething superfag. Notice how there is always an anti-Thor thread when there is an anti-Superman thread.

some sources say Thor is of fair hair some take that as to mean blonde or at least light hair that it can either swing to blond or red

Want me to fetch you some pokemon creatures pops?

>Notice how there's one thread criticizing Thor when there are 3 or 4 anti-Superman shitpost threads up
FTFY

That didn't help them when creating Porcupine, a C-list villain that shoots needles because they believed real porcupines do that.

>But he's not literally Moses. See my point? One has thematic likeness
That likeness is being a reference, so a Space Moses.
>where the other (Thor) is literally a public domain character tweaked to fit into Marvel comics.
He was made in a time where ancient astronauts/aliens stories were liked by the public, he is a revamp of a myth

>Thorfag desperate to validate Stan and Kirby's laziness
Love how you can't tell the difference between being inspired by ideas/concepts and straight up plagiarism

>Is there anything lazier than just tweaking old mythology for your own fiction?
That's how mythology is formed in the first place.

Didnt mention superman, nice projecting. Didn't even criticize the thread, just pointing out a weird pattern.

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I don't think you understand the production schedule of these books or the amount of them these dudes were producing. Guys like Toth and Kurtzman who actually researched their shit were actually disencouraged about it, most artists and writers had reference folders with whatever pictures or textual information they came across something and would use whatever was at hand. It's one of the reasons Kirby was such a beast, he could simply come up with shit on the spot, needing very little reference (which comes at the "cost" of everything he draws coming off as very kirbyesque, which isn't a bad thing in itself, but kinda impairs any attempt at naturalism, which wasn't what he was going for anyway)

Schools have libraries.

And I think you ignored the "on a deadline", which for Stan and Jack meant something like 50% of all Marvel titles.

I don't know if it's someone butthurt or just falseflagging

>Love how you can't tell the difference between being inspired by ideas/concepts and straight up plagiarism
Did you even read? Marvel Thor was made as a revamp of the Myth Thor.
He was made in a time where aliens as gods concepts were popularized by both Lovecraft and the UFO theories.
Kibry and Lee made it as a revamp, not as an historical document

Thor being nothing like the mythology is not a big deal.

The problem is how shallow, repetitive and non interesting he is, Thor got absolutely no consistent character traits besides "reeeeeeee I can't lift this fucking hammer" or "bawwwwww my family is being mean", he's sometimes similar to Superman holding back and being nice to his enemies and in other stories he's a brutal and merciless warrior brutally attacking enemies without giving a tiny fuck, he's sometimes the serious business guy and sometimes the goofy fish out of water comic relief, he's simply not consistent at all.

>revamp
So plagarize. It's not really accurate, its just "hey lets just use a public domain character and use the concepts for a superhero book". It's why DC has so many Alice in Wonderland characters.

>It's why DC has so many Alice in Wonderland characters.
What?

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>"reeeeeeee I can't lift this fucking hammer" or "bawwwwww my family is being mean"
That was 2010.
Current Thor stories deal with his heroism, he has been without hammer for years and they only gave him back for reboot reasons

He didn't get his hammer back until after SW, there was no reboot involved.

If you want consistency, don't read Big2 capeshit.

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>So plagarize. It's not really accurate, its just "hey lets just use a public domain character and use the concepts for a superhero book".
Plagiarizing and using a public domain character can't be together in the sentence.
They used Thor, the public domain character, but they didn't plagiarize Thor.
>It's why DC has so many Alice in Wonderland characters.
The Mad Hatter and the Tweedledee and Tweedledum are suppsed to be fans of the original book

DC has Mad Hatter, The Tweedles, and the entire Wonderland Gang. It's just easy to pull from

Thor did get back Mjolnir until after War of the Realms. And even if he did get it back, the damage Aaron did was still around.

>The Mad Hatter and the Tweedledee and Tweedledum are suppsed to be fans of the original book
Yes we know WHY in universe they're named that, but it doesn't change the fact that they were named as such simply because they were free characters to rip off.

And War of the Realms was after SW2015, again, no reboot involved.