Why isn't licensed music used more in Zig Forums shows?
It can make for some memorable moments if used correctly
Why isn't licensed music used more in Zig Forums shows?
Jaxson Butler
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Ryder White
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Season 2 of Venture Brothers starts with a great licensed song montage, it apparently took half the episode's entire budget
Hudson Cooper
>Why isn't licensed music used more in Zig Forums shows?
Money.
Same thing with anime and regular TV shows.
Bentley King
>It can make for some memorable moments if used correctly
POST THE MUSIC YOU TWAT
Anthony Stewart
>Some...
>times in our lives...
Ayden Moore
Because then sometimes they can’t get the rights back later.
Like episodes of the Super Mario Bros Super Show and Alvin and the Chipmunks had to have episodes are dubbed with new music because they couldn’t get the music rights or something. Like one episode of Mario use to have thriller.
Caleb Bailey
TV cartoon budgets are low enough as it is.
Licensed music is mostly used in "prestige" TV and streaming shows where they can throw money hand over fist.
Besides, animators rarely know how to use licensed music well (look at any Dreamworks or Illumination film)
Zachary Gutierrez
Sad Horse Show is the only cartoon I can think of that consistently uses licensed music well
Nolan Gutierrez
>a new poignant song comes up for the credits >Netflix auto-skips it
Julian Thomas
KotH had some great song moments. Like when Buck and his son met
Logan Roberts
you know what a license is right
that was just one song as well, but it was a globally-popular song from an artist who was so in-demand before she was signed in the US that there was a bidding war to sign her on the basis of that one song, and it never really went away between 1992 and 2006; on the one hand that's what makes it so useful as music for a soundtrack - it's recognizable and well-liked - on the other hand that's what makes it so expensive to get clearance for
for a show run on a shoestring like VB - I think back in 2006 I even knew some of the art staff online in a vague kind of way, and they sure as shit weren't raking in cash from their work - it's almost incredible that they were able to license music at all
this can also be a problem, you end up with clearance for tv but not for home media, or with a clearance that lasts for a decade or whatever and then someone has to make another payment or... whatever the contract says
it's dumb but it does actually protect musical artists as well: if you think about Elizabeth Mitchell's "little bird" on that one episode of Futurama, it's a great song and a great sequence to which it's very much suited - and I'm not saying it cost the earth to clear or made the same as Everybody's Free, but getting that kind of money for essentially doing nothing does help smaller artists pay the bills and keep making music, but the tendency is to leave it to the record company to work out (except these days the record company is often just the artist and maybe some friends and a day-play lawyer), so it's one of those problems with no good answer to it: either you pay artists to piss about and maybe have a follow-up hit or you don't get art to pay for later on
Los Ageless was a fucking revelation
Nathaniel Morgan
> licensed music
> licensed
Answered your own question there, bud
Jonathan Howard
Pic unrelated? Seriously that was a shit use of music, just beating us over the head with the evil Morty reveal. Would've been way more effective if the shot pulling back through space with all the dead Ricks and Mortys was silent
Juan Sullivan
I've been watching British TV and noticing even low budget reality trash will often contain licensed music. What's the deal with that? Do record companies specifically overcharge Americans?
Ayden Mitchell
Maybe American companies can’t enforce it in UK
Adrian Walker
Not that series but relevant
Jordan Ortiz
Expensive as hell and anyone with enough money will be paying out even more because the owner must know just how big the potential profits could be.
Nathan Lee
They should just use lesser known singers or bands that still make good shit. Or get a person to make a song for cheap cause they happen to be a fan of show, I forget but I know that some famous musicians have made original stuff for cartoons before just because they like the show
Juan Long
Look up “license” if you’re really determined.
Evan Baker
So you don’t run into the Daria problem and have to fuck with it for the DvD
Jace Jenkins
Mission Hill got the worst of it
Jaxon Cruz
Old music licenses are rather cheap.
Brandon Davis
>episode pulls out an original song that's an absolute banger
Dominic Cruz
I'll never get over that they had to pull Everybody Hurts from that episode where there is an actual fucking punchline that involves that song
Andrew Nguyen
Bentley Phillips
There was also Tom Jones
Jonathan Jackson
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Here you go, bros.
William Sanchez
Another factor is that now that licensed music used to be used to be able sell soundtrack CDs. If you saw a movie and liked five songs in it, you could buy them all in one convenient package instead of hunting down five different CDs or cassettes from five different artists you might not even be familiar with.
But once digital music downloads took off you didn't need movie soundtracks. You could just go on iTunes and download the individual tracks you like for less than the price of a CD. Streaming made that even easier and cheaper.
A few movies still do soundtrack CDs like Spider-Verse but it's pretty much a dead art. Movies have hardly any licensed music in them these days and in a lot of cases it feels like a huge missed opportunity. Imagine how much Spider-Verse would suffer if it didn't used any licensed tracks.
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Lincoln Reyes
>that was just one song as well, but it was a globally-popular song from an artist who was so in-demand before she was signed in the US that there was a bidding war to sign her on the basis of that one song
she's a literal nobody
Ian Wright
Unless you're going for an obscure indie band under a small publisher, Licensing songs ain't cheap.
It costs over a million dollars to use a song by the beatles, there was an american dad episode about it.
Jaxson Moore
Money and terms.
Some shows like Daria and Beavis and Butthead have the licensed music as a good part of its appeal
Jeremiah Harris
Somewhat related, but a Game had to stop being sold because the Music License rights for it expired
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