Why is DC all the sudden against Harley and Joker?
Why is DC all the sudden against Harley and Joker?
Samuel Myers
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Joseph Howard
Harley blew up in popularity so they want to maintain the potential for solo material i guess?
Jordan Brown
The only people who care about the character dynamics are feminazi sjws who think their relationship is abusive and that Harley "deserves better" despite herself being a villain. The Harlivy ship is there because they're degenerates who see friendship as evidence of repressed sexual desire.
Jaxon Scott
The fuck you mean "All of a sudden"? It's been like this for a decade!
Benjamin Edwards
Because she’s popular enough now to milk on her own. That’s it really. Just slap her and Batman into teams and shit. At this point they’re more respectful of her than Diana, which is incredibly infuriating.
Michael Martinez
because it doesn't fit with their trend of trying to make Harley the protagonist
Thomas Wood
the Joekr knows the truth.... they dont want it to get out. Fictional smear campaign
Grayson Barnes
The merchandising for the Suicide Squad movie doesn't seem to agree.
Joshua Nguyen
>The only people who care about the character dynamics are feminazi sjws who think their relationship is abusive
Jaxson Parker
I don't quite get why something like Suicide Squad works with villain protagonists but an ongoing of a single villain or pair of villains, seems like a no go. Also Sirens worked to me and they were all villains then. Is it a three villain minimum? Plus if they are trying to clean up Harley's image and make her a hero, why keep her on SS?
Luis Jenkins
Are you retarded? Harley was gaining independence since at least 2010 in comics. Suicide Squad was just casual bandwagon
John Wood
because they want to straddle a line where she can be both a good guy and a bad guy, which really doesn't work but when has logic ever stopped these writers
Jace Miller
because punchline is better
Jonathan Torres
>casual bandwagon
So the thing they actually milk, and thus gets more exposure and influence?
It's still one of the most normie friendly couple cosplays to this day.
Juan Lopez
They don't really sell her as a bad guy anymore in books
And your point? OP asked all of a sudden like solo Harley was a new thing.
Jason Clark
Well, Batman has been trying to get Harley off the Joker train since the animated series.
...but recently DC has decided to take it into a full swing cringe girl power direction, when really what Harley needs is to be saved from the pitfalls of living a life of crime. The BTAS episode where she has her day out is a good indication of where her character needed to go to get her real life back on track.
Instead, she's been allowed to keep being a delusional psychopath and wear the makeup for marketing reasons. She is no longer a real character.
James Howard
>wear the makeup for marketing reasons
You laking about the blue and pink eye shadow, Because technically they've never undone the white skin thing from new 52 reboot where Joker drops her in chemicals to be like him, And her hair is still red and black she just bleaches it and dies it now.
Jordan Morris
>Instead, she's been allowed to keep being a delusional psychopath
You don't know what that term means, and Harley doesn't go on murder sprees anymore
>and wear the makeup for marketing reasons.
Her skin is bleached now, has been for years in fact
>She is no longer a real character.
She's more of a character now more than ever thanks to Humphries. In BTAS she had the pity card of being an abuse victim that believed a lie, but that was about it
Educate yourself
Luis Lewis
Why are they moving Harley away from the Joker, the guy who's always treated her like shit since... her inception? I dunno user, that's a real stumper that one.
William Torres
>who think their relationship is abusive and that Harley "deserves better" despite herself being a villain
...yes
Jackson Murphy
They want Harley the antihero but she can't be that if she's with the Joker. That's pretty much it. And honestly her being with the Joker got old and they were never even together most of the time in the animated series.
Xavier White
>She's more of a character now more than ever thanks to Humphries.
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>In BTAS she had the pity card of being an abuse victim that believed a lie, but that was about it
And she was a much more heartfelt, tragic, and endearing character because of it.
Besides, I subscribe to the BTAS/B:Beyond timeline where she gives up on crime, becomes a grandma.
Brayden Carter
Because it's abusive (but you can say the same thing about Harvey/Poison Ivy and Joker/Punchline)
Alexander Hill
>Harley blew up in popularity
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Ian Lopez
People tend to get a little squeamish around dysfunctional relationships involving a sociopath and a co-dependent enabler.
Andrew Green
Read it yourself. We story timed it recently. She still has tragedy in her life, even without Joker abusing her
Luke Campbell
Is Humprhies one of the greatest redemption stories in comics?
Joseph Ramirez
nah, it was shit, she so "lol so random"
Robert Butler
Pussies, am I right?
Andrew Allen
All I know is that current Harley/Harley fandom is shit.
Aiden Cooper
>and Harley doesn't go on murder sprees anymore
>except times when she joins SS
>She's more of a character now more than ever thanks to Humphries.
>Dykepool with poor development and plot-armor from Justice league
Okay