John Byrne on Grant Morrison

>I get no sense from Morrison’s work that he has any “love for the genre.” I get the same vibe I get from Moore—a cold and calculated mixing of ingredients the writer knows the fans like, but to which the writer himself has no eviceral [sic] connection. Nostalgia without being nostalgic, as I have dubbed it.

Was he right?

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Did John Byrne have love for the genre when he wrote about Superman raping Jack Kirby's wife

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Morrison likes only what he likes and likes the retcon and ignore previous stuff for his fetishes.
So Byrne is right again.
They were forced by Sleez.
And Byrne actually made Darkseid act like Kirby would

On Morrison, maybe, personally I think Morrison is more obsessed with archetypes than the actual heroes themselves, he wants his work to be meta-textual and Jungian. Moore, I think, likes the material at its base level as children's entertainment, and loves the genre, but he definitely wanted to get away from superheroes, and did in the later half of his career away from the big 2.

More importantly, why does having "nostalgia" for any given book make it qualitatively good? It seems to me he's under the impression that slavish love for the material is the only way in which the books can be good, that's a very cynical shallow way to look at writing.

Say what you will about the quality and coherence of Morrison's work, but just about every comic he writes is basically him going "I fucking love comics" damn near explicitly. Byrne is just being a hateful faggot.

The only thing Byrne has a love for is little girls

'love for the genre' for Byrne means bending over to corporate overlords who own the characters
Kirby was right to call him an eunuch

Byrne is the type of comic autist that anything he says about other people should be take with a pint of salt. After all, this is the guy who goes out of his way to retcon things out to "restore" them to their proper original form because he hates changes, and he often adds completely moronic retcons like Osborn and Sandman being related because of the way their hair is drawn.

John Byrne has literally never been right.

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The Definitive She-Hulk.

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>Many people are tortured and driven by a desire to have sex with children. Our society frowns on this, and such people are considered mentally ill. We do not accommodate them, we do not respect them. How is being “transgender” different? Given all the twists and turns that have happened in our general understanding of how the brain and mind work — still a work in progress — how difficult is it to imagine a future in which it will be determined without doubt that “transgender” is, indeed, a mental illness? How will we feel about all those people who, instead of actually helping them, we encouraged in a program of self-mutilation?

People think Moore and Morrison are "cold" because they don't write 4 pages of teenage heroes making awful quips while they're swinging wildly at nothing every issue.

Like I said, never right

Morrison is an over rated hipster.

I can't understand how anyone could read Alan Moore's Supreme, Top 10 or Promethea and say such nonsense as "calculated mixing of ingredients the writer knows the fans like, but to which the writer himself has no eviceral [sic] connection".

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>eviceral
visceral is a buzzword for critics that rarely means anything. It's for quotes on book covers and movie ads. I like some Byrne material but c'mon dude.

Angry people talking about other people without actually knowing said people.
Having uninformed opinions is something everybody can do, it's easy, and angry opinions write themselves...
Never worth listening to.

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What’s with the full english breakfast user?

I get no sense from Byrne's work that he has any love for women above the age of consent.

This.
I think both Morrison and Moore like the genre, but for them it is more like a possibility to make something interesting.

Byrne don't like development and change, he wants the superheroes to be just like they always been. Like most of the fans.

Based

i thought that was she-hulk?

Byrne is a retard but he can draw so he's more talented than Morrison

That's hilarious. If he is on twitter someone needs to tweet that at him when he says something retarded.

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The Best Superman origin story.
Redefine the relationship between Batman and Superman, with them having to build trust in each other.
Krypton no longer looks like an episode of the Star Trek OS.
Lex Luthor as it should be done.
Ma and Pa Kent alive to give moral and emotional support to Super.
I can continue, but I must have already made myself clear.

Grant can draw as well. Some of the covers for example are based on his sketches.

>Ma and Pa Kent alive to give moral and emotional support to Super.
He's not a child. He's even got a wife and kid.

>eviceral
John Byrne destroys what he loves, confirmed.

Matter not. Even the guy with the clearest mind in the world and the most resolved in his life, sometimes needs support, and why not seek out the people who helped him to be the person he is?

Aka Moore/Morrison are fans of the content and medium while Byrne is a proper fanboy.

Grant can draw well but doesn't do interiors for his books. Kinda wish he did.
>best superman origin
I cried reading it.
The birthing matrix was so funny and transparent I couldn't stop laughing, the tears wouldn't stop.

He's always been a manchild to be more relatable to his fanbase.

I feel like people enjoy the idea of Byrne's She-Hulk and ignore that the man is horrible at actually executing a joke. That or they're sports with low standards for comedy writing who laugh at good ideas for jokes even when they're fumbled.