Watchmen

>implying we aren't in a simulation

I think it wasn't as good as it could be, but it wasn't bad either.

Probably that the characters' views are a product of their experiences, and aren't necessarily intended to be read as being factually correct.

I think it is, at worst, a misunderstanding on Alan Moore's part about how the psychological profession works. Poorly researched, perhaps, but his skill as a writer still shines though.

So tl;dr Rorschach BTFO?

>being that can see across time and space because of the deterministic nature of reality
Except for when he can't.

tomasi superman
tynion batman
lobdell red hood

>but his skill as a writer still shines though.
More seeps through.

Thaks i will check those out. Anything else? I am interested in your taste because it seems different from mine

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Okay

>Lobdell
>Tynion
Kek

Rorschach breaking the shrink is needed in order for Rorschach to break at the climax.

Watchmen starts as an 80's Dirty Harry\Robocop urban fantasy. Pansies think the world is sunshine and roses, they'd break if they saw the world as it really is. Rorschach is tuff enough that he sees the world as it really is and fights the bad guys! This is a standard urban tough guy trope and for the most part is played straight at this point. Rorschach is the hero of Watchmen, he's the tuff guy who's so badass he's going to fix everything!

Only as we continue to follow Rorschach we learn he's kind of an awkward smelly sperg. As Watchmen ends, Rorschach is shown how the world actually works. Ozymandius is going to win, he's not going to go to jail, and hitting or hurting the right person isn't going to fix it. So Rorschach himself breaks, just like the shrink breaks earlier.

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>Except for when he can't.
Tachyons were a shitty diablo ex machina that didn't even make sense in universe. And also him even being able to say he can see the future violates causality cause it's a reaction to him seeing the future so really atemporal Manhattan didn't make sense in the first damn place.

I choose to believe he's actually all knowing and all powerful, he could change the future, and the tachyon blindness was an act by a cruel and mad god that wished for the story to play out as it did. Clears up several plotholes and makes the story a bit funnier.

That is a weird standard to use after criticizing Alan Moore

Lmao, this comic made me so fucking happy man

When you're a criminal psychologist you've already been there for years. Him breaking to the point of ruining a dinner with real talk is unrealistic. Him being that blown away that he'd lose his composure for a panel is just Moore shitting on a profession he doesn't respect. The fact that Behind the Mask is commonplace and it's known that vigilantes hide trauma, there's nothing surprising about his story. The whole setting lends itself for the darkness that Rorschach experienced to be common enough. The tiniest dose of reality shattering a criminal psychologist working at a big New York prison is really fucking stupid.

no

That's a good point, but the shrink goes on to be more than just a prop, his goodness challenged, he goes and makes his own justice, breaking up a fight and protecting a stranger in the end. He and everyone else there dies in the squid attack, possibly a symbol of the world healing itself without millions dying.

It's still ridiculous that someone experienced enough to land that job would be shaken by Rorschach.

I doubt that Alan trully doesnt respect psychologists. Maybe there is something eery about Rorshach that differentiates him from other criminal, not only on what he says, but the way he says it and behaves. Maybe even metaphisically speaking. He is a key player in the fate of the comic's universe after all. I do think it is a kind of corny and cliche scene, but i wouldnt call it fucking stupid.

Ewing, Tomasi, Johns, Waid, Hickman.

Maybe he just thinks its asinine to the point it bothers him enough to react like this.

IIRC he pursued the job of examining Rorschach because it would be good for his career so he could have been out of his depth, but he was already a pretty wealthy and experienced psychologist. They wouldn't have let any hack take a crack at a notorious vigilante, so he must have been pretty experienced and well regarded in his field.

I'm not surpised at somone in that field undergoing a burnout at some point but him being the one who pushes him over the edge? After fifteen years on the job? Yeah, it's pretty convenient writing.

>He and everyone else there dies in the squid attack, possibly a symbol of the world healing itself without millions dying.

I think that's more optimistic than what Moore intended, simply because the whole Cold War backdrop was more depressing in the 1980s. Very few people fire saw the Cold War ending in a peaceful fashion just a few years later.

From the perspective of 2020, the whole Squid plot looks less than necessary. But in the mid-80s, it seemed like the sort of grand gesture you would need to end the Cold War.

He gazed into the abyss man

The out of touch, upper class view of masked vigilantes showed that they were so sheltered they saw them like we typically see them; rescuing women tied to train tracks by goofy villains. The darkness never occurred to them, quite possibly to the doctor himself. This sheltered view we really weren't aware of until that scene which makes it harder to understand.

But yes, Rorschach, the piss filing paranoid schizophrenic is special and lay down some entry level philosophy to break an experienced professional who should be well acclimated to just that.