This can't be happening

You guys told me that everyone hated "Harley Quinn". What is happening?

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>Renegade Cut
Opinion discarded. His videos always seem so bitter. Honestly I'm a major league Harleyfag and even I didn't like the show. Humor is subjective but it just wasn't funny to me and a lot of the emotional beats felt kinda forced. Haven't seen season 2 so maybe it gets better.

>You guys told me that everyone hated "Harley Quinn"
We didn't say that.
We said the characterization is poorly-written.
A lot of poorly-written shows are not "hated by everyone".

Pic related in a nutshell. Either you buy the "Harley is a moral person and heroic" line or you don't. As a comedy the show works. As a drama it has a huge murderous plot hole in the center.

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>NOOOOO I CAN'T LIKE CRIMINALS PROTAGONISTS
Meanwhile, everyone is still masturbating over "Breaking Bad".

>Best DC series
Tasteless fag, that’s clearly Doon Patrol

E en people on Zig Forums enjoyed the show. Not everyone, but it had its following. you listened to the wrong posters.

If you're willing to forgive the show's character inconsistencies it's fun.

The writers thought they could make Harley into a Ferris Bueller character - anarchic and mischievous but well-intentioned. They really should have written a Rick Sanchez character - evil and doesn't give a fuck, and slightly cares about his family. Because they keep trying to push Harley as a good person they have huge issues with the tone of the show.

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>visit Renegade Cut
>assume he’s some cartoon reviewer
>channel is actually full of politics

>You Tube is real life
I bet you think Orange Man's tweets are also based in reality.

>Haven't seen season 2 so maybe it gets better.
It doesn't.
It really, really doesn't.

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So: plot holes are explained Because Reasons and we're supposed to buy in Because It's FUN!

This pic miss the point so much. The actual point of that episode was that if Harley want to become a real villain, she has to make away with any kind of line.

that episode is about her learning what it takes.

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>screencap thread
>questionposting
>larping
time to 41% your miserable lie of a life, tranny

"Character is a criminal" is not a "plot hole".

Damn son it's like you don't have reading comprehension at all.

Breaking Bad does not present Hal as a good person, or a good father, or a hero. The show repeatedly points out that he's a shitty person and doing things for his own selfish reasons despite what he tells himself, that he's doing it for his family.
Same with Sopranos. The show, and specifically Tony's therapist and his wife, repeatedly try to confront him about his sociopathy and violence. He's not a good guy, the show never tries to call him a good guy.
Same with Venture Bros. In all of its 85 episodes, only one person calls Rusty a good guy, and it's a shopkeeper who's trying to keep him as a customer. There's one moment where he bonds with his children and that's it. That's all the show ever tries to show his "good side". Meanwhile when he straight-out asks Brock if he's a villain Brock brushes it off with "eh", and the show explores what a shitty person he is constantly.

On the other hand, DCU Harley Quinn pushes Harley Quinn as a moral person, a bad guy who's not really a bad guy, heroic, and a feminist icon. All while murdering people, perpetuating the state of anarchy in the city which she admits is exactly what she wants, and sending an army of demons who likely have killed thousands of people, judging by what Ivy says.

So it's not about having a criminal as the lead character. It's about propping up an unapologetic murderer-kidnapper-sociopath as a hero.

Walter White has no delusions about being a good or moral person. We understood why he did what he did but we didnt think "Oh what a bastion of humanity"

>that episode is about her learning what it takes.
No, and I'm not even going to bother quoting the interviews with the writers because you managed to miss the point of the show so hard it HAS to be deliberate.

>complaining about a Zig Forums thread actually being on topic
You are the reason why things are bad.

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>Breaking Bad does not present Hal as a good person, or a good father, or a hero.
Who the fuck is "Hal"?

Anyway, Deadpool is another example.

"Character is really a good person and heroic despite being an unapologetic murderer and kidnapper who unleashed an army of demons onto a city and threatened to nuke it" is bad writing. I used the term "plot hole" loosely ha ha vagina joke because it fits. The writers wanted a plot about a good person who doesn't follow the rules, but they ended up writing a plot about a sociopath who doesn't follow the rules.

>"Character is really a good person and heroic despite being an unapologetic murderer and kidnapper who unleashed an army of demons onto a city and threatened to nuke it" is bad writing.
The Marvel universe built its popularity on characters like this.

You will be hard pressed to find a Marvel hero that has killed fewer people than Harley.

>Who the fuck is "Hal"?
Watch the show, retard.

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Did I say the Marvel universe is well-written? This whataboutism has got to stop.

>Did I say the Marvel universe is well-written?
Do you believe the Marvel universe is a"plot hole"?

Oh for fuck sake I already explained why I used that term.
>In fiction, a plot hole, plothole or plot error is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot.
There is nothing wrong with using that term to describe an inconsistency. You don't like that term, I get it. Now you get over it.

Nice rant, but you ignored my question.

Funny thing is about RC is that he's kinda good at it but yeah bitter as fuck. Like I feel he makes a video after someone gets done fucking over.

I don’t hate it personally. I don’t love it, and I find it’s not really funny as much as it is interesting, but I don’t hate it.

>Opinion discarded. His videos always seem so bitter.
>Funny thing is about RC is that he's kinda good at it but yeah bitter as fuck.
Well, this dude that is "oh so bitter" was really sweet about "Harley Quinn".

I guess the show is just that good, huh?

>more whattaboutism to sidestep the original discussion
lmao based drooling retard.

I already answered your question in the previous post, your whataboutism doesn't matter. You can keep asking a thousand questions about a thousand different comics and TV shows but it's irrelevant to the fact that the writers of DCU Harley Quinn wanted, in their words, a Ferris Bueller character, and, in the words of the characters of the show, Harley Quinn is "heroic" and "not a bad person" and "champion of women" and "breaks the glass ceiling". This goes against what Harley actually does in the show. And of course the writers and the crew stated these things in interviews. And then when Harley gets a few thousand people killed, or kidnaps a guy and allows her crew to force him to prepare human flesh, the show ignores it.

I can't speak for everyone but I'm not a fan.

I don't know I never watched it. Stop tearing down how bitter I see him damn it!

I like Harley and even I know this show is trash