Fall of masculinity in comics

Why did all the manly testesterone filled heroes from the 80s and 90s fall not famous anymore?

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Because Manga an anime do manly guys better than western comics. People who work out and enjoy burly guys punching each other watch Dragonball or Kengan Ashura; they don't pick up X-Men.

Manga and anime also do tiddie girls better, because they take one thing per series and stick with it.

Whereas mainstream western comic try to appeal to everyone at oce for maximum profit and end up watered down and tasteless.

You still occasionally get stuff like Luthor Strode, but you've gotta go seeking it out.

80s were pulpy and dramatic and 90s were extreme to such a degree that it was almost comical.

DBZ isn't really test filled though. The old John Wayne and Clint Eastwood movies were masculine. Goku is just some dweeb.

Captain America is pretty manly

>DBZ isn't really test filled though.
This is very delusional

This
The general audiences are pretty burnt out on these themes due to the oversaturation. Give it another 20 years maybe.

He's as manly as Superman, so not manly at all.

It was also the era of terminator, rambo, robocop, conan. Basically Schwarzenegger and Stallone were the big guys. Now you Jonah Hill and some other nerds.

>The old John Wayne and Clint Eastwood movies were masculine
More Cholesterol than testosterone.
They got all the cool lines, but most of that coolness kinda evaporates when you realize those guys couldn't last five minute in a boxing ring.

The appeal of Goku (and shonen in general) is that you see him constantly push himself to get stronger and overcome the odds. It's often dumb as hee, but the underlying message is relatable and powerful.

>Now you Jonah Hill and some other nerds.
Dwayne Johnson is literally the highest payed actor in the world genius.
This is some "back in the day we had real music" boomer shit.

That's like complaining that Goku's VA can't act five minutes in a boxing ring.

How is Evans less masculine than Stallone

Only if they they put their likeness into the anime.

You don't understand, he's not smoking cigars, not flippantly killing dudes, doesn't have a five o'clock shadow, isn't fucking a bitch every night, and doesn't have a bad boy attitude that grates on straight edges and makes women wet every time he enters the room, so he's a bitch.

The good ones has the girls with muscles and big tiddies....like comics used to have. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?

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Tht's only manly in the mind of a 13 year orld or Rob Liebfeld.

Because kids looking for testosterone-fueled bullshit aren't fucking reading comics anymore.
They're spamming Yasuo or Garen in fucking video games.

It's all the estrogen in our water and the BPAs in plastic. Pic relative is rhe average male nowadays. Anything manly gets derided as toxic masculinity.

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Read some novels instead to get your fix

toxic masculinity is a problem.
like toxic feminity such as 80's and 90's female characters.

but he's nice to be around and can talk without seething blood and semen from his mouth so no he is not manly

You're a spiteful, judgmental, hateful being,
full up with hypocrisy,
Grow the fuck up, quick sharp.

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You spend too much time online, my friend.

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Because industry was subverted and only SoCal super liberal virtue-signalling retards make it through that kind of nepotistic culture. If you're not the kind of useful idiot who will put out degenerate anti-male pro-minority bullshit without ever being asked then (((they))) aren't hiring you. Don't want men thinking they have agency, purpose, or strength in life.

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That's my point, and that's what was considered peak masculinity back in the 80s through 90s, but petered out by the mid oughts or so when everybody started to turn on the edgy phase and make fun of it.

>Don't want men thinking they have agency, purpose, or strength in life
Question is are they the only ones that should have that.

because women and soi"males" are the ones writing comics now.

Of course not, but we've had stronk independent womenz in media since the 1970s and nobody questions it when it's the right kind of character. The issue is the people who now run media would never put a strong male lead, especially a White one, in a prominent role unless he's a carryover from the 90s or before. You're writing a modern military story? Gee, I wonder what gender and race the good-guy captain is going to be and what the bad-guy captain will be. How brave.

isn't it caused because comics now are divided between "lol random" and "next level edge" ? both of which humiliate the heroes one way or anthro

>80
>manly
It was the Claremontian era. It was more about long expositions and plots than manliness
>90
More about edgy than manliness. And that got tiresome real fast, i can assure you, i remember pretty well the comics back then.

Demoralization.