Wait, hear me out
>60 years of leadership experience
>genius scientist and sorcerer
>Latveria: safe, rich and with universal healthcare
>not a racist: all are equally beneath Doom
>saved the world several times and will again
>always wears a mask
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That's just poor writing, if Dr.Doom was real none of that shit would happen. He be too arrogant to make a great and prosperous country
>Latveria: safe, rich and with universal healthcare
I have yet so meet a single Marvelfag willing to explain how exactly Latveria works.
How the fuck is it rich? What the fuck do they produce? Who the fuck buy their shit? How do their taxes works?
No Marvelfag I have met has been able to go beyond "I-I-It's an Utopia, shut up!".
They are sometimes shown as a poor italian looking village with a castle in the middle of it or a quite prosperous nation,
There is nothing consistent about latveria and Doom is little more than a figurehead who simply allow a goverment to self rule and recruit the best citizens, what makes me think their goverment is similar to China.
How would they be able to explain something that doesn't have a canon explanation, Tommy?
Besides, are you concerned how real life random Euro countries prosper? Protip: it's not just one big cartoony export like Vibranium, it's a bunch of things.
Well, maybe Doomfags should hold their tongues, then, instead of screaming "LATVERIA IS THE BESTEST UTOPIA OF ALL LITERATURE" to everyone within reach.
>dooooood Doom is like, da bestest Monarch ever and like, he's gonna put niggers and trannies everythwere cuz we're all da same bruh, and he's gonna let you smoke ganja all day while you get neetbux hahaha and he's like gonna send us to space an sheeeeiiiii
It's as if you people actively hate the character. Go read about Lex Luthor.
>Tommy
>Not saying apex of writting or any trademark
>saying fags rather than fans
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No reason for that. There's rarely a detailed explanation for the inner workings of fictional countries in cape comics. If the comic says it's a utopia, then it is, nobody wants to read about Latveria's leading exports or its tax policies.
Can you pinpoint the moment when you started this crusade against windmills regarding Doomfags? Who hurt you, Tommy?
Calling Latvaria a utopia makes Dr.Doom look like a smart guy and good person, yet he always loses to some superhero or does petty things. It doesn't check out
You mean there's 2 people with the extremely specific persecution complex of "Doomfags tell me he's the best all day every day?"
Fascinating.
Hmm not really a proper contradiction there. Besides I've always preferred the idea that the so-called utopia is a facade.
Well that's a thought, but comic ever shows Latveria making the facade of a utopia, its always a depiction of a played straight utopia
I am sure you are used to seeing a lot of "DOOM IS THE BESTEST VILLAIN OF ALL" comments, aren't you?
Before me, had you ever seen a single person saying "no, he is not"?
I literally copied and pasted my OP from a meme I saw elsewhere. It took the people getting angry at it more effort to make the angry reply than my Dr. Doom post
Doomfags actually are delusional though.
you ever hear about primary exports, champ?
obsessed
no, Latveria makes all their money importing
Great, champ.
> not racist
Doom said Black Panthers smart for a black, that it must be a mutation of Wakandans. Also not acknowledging racial differences is for the easily manipulated, if Doom is made PC it's a writer projecting
>Doom is not racist
That reminds that he consider niggers inferiors, only praising wakandans due what he suspect being due a mutant strand in their dna. That said he also despises mutants due relying on their mutations. That is somewhat inconsistent. The only consistent thing i could found in him is that he actually more a meritocratic and anti authority guy
>despises mutants and supernatural like Dracula for considering themselves superior to humans
>despises established authority due his past as a gypo fucked by government/aristocracy
>despises things like birthright due said above
>is all about claw your way to the top, no matter what
>respects to a degree people that dedicates themselves to self improvement/climbing to the top even if he considers himself to be the apex
Guess the "niggers compensate the lack of intellect with physical prowess" is a writer that didn't knew the character well.
They're all actually Doombots.
Latveria exports weapons, high tech shit and even super human agents. Also its a small country so Doom can treat the citizens like pets, so universal health care, not taxes, etc. But the populace is always fearful of him. It's a "Utopia" in the economic sense, but fucked up behind the curtains.
You can be meritocratic and still dislike niggers due to their inherent flaws, user. You really think some Balkan, gyppo or not, would like niggers? Or Spics or whatever? You've never lived next to them. However racist you think Uncle Cletus is, they're ten times worse, because they're still tribal.
>Dracula
Pure shit writing by some Brit. Vlad's a hero in the Balkans.
>despises established authority
>despises things due to birthright
Those things are literally cope. If he "despised" them, he wouldn't become a Monarch with Crests, he'd become a quasi-Dictator, like Stalin, Mao, Mussolini, etc. Doom's supposed to be a contradictory and petty faggot. It's why he tries his damnest to act like some Royal Caricature who talks in the third person. To simplify it as
>guy was poor so he hates the rich
is rather silly. He wouldn't raise Kristoff like that if he was a
>fuck you, go conquer your own kingdom
type. His story is just that of the underdog who gets power and then becomes the very thing he claimed to be against (but he never really was). He disliked Rudolpho and the others because they were incompetent at their job and he figured that he deserved it more. It's not the same as despising the system/form of government alltogether.
Really, people want to streamline Doom into some neat and tidy character but the whole point is that he's a walking contradiction. He's got super advanced tech but he talks around with a tunic. He's a super scientist but also a wizard. He raised his country's living conditions, but he has it looking as some village out of a fairytale while he holds jousting competitions with flying horses. There's no "logic" to be found because he's ultimately a man driven by emotions. Oh sure, he knows all the statistics and has the data. He'll purge the undesirables without a second thought. But instead of say, creating skyscrapers, he's more likely to cull the population so that his aesthetics wouldn't be ruined. He's that kind of person.
>universal health care, not taxes
Is this a joke?
Latveria gets economic aid, and not sanctioned to hell and back, from other nations because, despite being run by an egomaniacal dictator, Doom helps to keep communism at bay.
Better Doom than Red.
>feudal
>it was actually an absolute monarchy
Victor skipped political science classes...
It wasn't even a Monarchy, it was just a Dictatorship.
That Black Panther run had a lot of bias going on. The way Doom addressed Storm was inconsistent with past iterations.
Doom's inventions (and maybe magic) probably keep the place running smoothly, as long as no one messes with the Von Doom. Wouldn't be surprised if he just turns coal into diamonds to sell.
>Wouldn't be surprised if he just turns coal into diamonds to sell.
Manufacturing flawless diamonds is 20th century technology, you don't need magic or super-science to do it.
We already have a glimpse of how the world would be under Doom in that one short story Emporer Doom, essentially a utopia without any strife, at least until he gets bored.
Same way how North Korea stays viable, certain exports related to either weapons manufacturing or specific ores. Doom isn't above trade, unlike Wakanda which makes even less sense.
Latveria is a double edged sword in that is a utopia only if you don't value FREEDOM. The people in Latveria live decent lives but one step out of line and they are done for. Hence why through out the original FF story lines, there have been a mix of dissidents who hate Dooms guts and the loyalists who would fight tooth and nail for him (which seems to be most latverians). Without Doom the country would overall be worst off and only somewhat better for the few individualists (you'd be free but you'd be free in a poor as shit eastern european country)
Doom isn't racists he sees EVERYONE as inferior to him, with maybe the exception of Richard which he sees as an equal, maybe...
>tightens borders and keeps everyone in their cunt
>smuggles whites out of South Africa and lets the niggers eat each other alive
Wtf, I love Doom now?!
>is a writer that didn't knew the character well.
That's the real problem with Doom, and at this point most of capeshit. Most Doomfags (and I include myself as one) are used to Bronze Age Doom, a character who IS nominally noble and elegant who could have been the savior of the planet except for his ego, his hatred of Reed, & desire to rule the world and return it to a romanticized version of a 'simpler time' like Latveria. He was also supposed to be the villain used very sparingly outside the FF and when he was it was looked on as something special.
Late 90's on though he's been a jobber to the point where even Gwenpool jokes that she's beaten him and he's no big deal which he really isn't anymore, especially after that last mini series where he was using profanity.
It'll all be moot anyway when the MCU Doom comes out.
>not a racist: all are equally beneath Doom
He consider africans to be fisicaly superior and mentaly inferior, save for the people of wakanda.
>not a racist
Did you not read the comic where he refused to pay Luke Cage?
I doubt the bumfucks who work in Latveria provide any sort of substantial services to Doom that he couldn't acquire from either his Doombots or trading with other countries. The fact that he even keeps the around, let alone have 0 unemployment rate really says something about him
Surface-level take. He's not some American Metropolitan guy. He's a Balkan gyppo. It doesn't matter how superior you see yourself to everyone, you still have an ingroup and a tribalistic attitude in these parts of the world. Maybe he still hates Germans due to WW2, or the Symkarians because they stole some piece of land in some treaty and are claiming Korvotisch XIV as their own. Maybe he looks up to the Brits for X and Y. Maybe he's a Byzaboo. It's Europe, and secifically the Balkans; there is no possibillity that someone like Doom is your average inner city US liberal.
>niggers
>physically superior
They've got longer legs and run better/are basketball americans. Whites dominate the rest of the sports. Hudlin was probably jerking off when he wrote that. Does anyone remember literal "Racist Vatican Black Knight"?