Does mike mignola admit that Alex Toth is a huge originator of the style or does he just act like he founded it?
Never met a mignola fan that talks about toth, only toth fans that are familiar with mignola
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Michael Brooks
The "Alex Toth" style looks an awful lot like Film Noir but applied to Comics. It's entirely possible Mignola and Toth are just fans of similar media.
John Gomez
Toth's comic influences included Milton Caniff and Noel Sickles. There was also a DC artist who mentored Toth whose style looked kinda similar to Toth's, but I forget the name right now.
Luke Parker
>Never met a mignola fan that talks about toth, only toth fans that are familiar with mignola
It's mainly because Toth's work was really spread out and he didn't do a long run on like an a-list character, so casual fans aren't as aware of him. Those who are aware of him are usually the ones who really do give a shit about comics art beyond whoever's currently popular.
Kayden Johnson
I'm curious but ignorant.
Why do believe Toth is the originator of such a style?It seems pretty common of his contemporaries. I understand there must be a first but why is it him?
David Wilson
he's the most popular
Ryder Jackson
Explain how this looks like a Hellboy comic. It looks more like a Jaime Hernandez book from the fifties.
Austin Brown
OP is thinking it looks like Mignola because of the black/white contrasts.
Charles Collins
Is this because of the letter tweet?
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John Rivera
They're quite different. Mignola stuff also revolves around color.
Here's a comic by Caniff.
Christian Scott
Act like what, you faggy little drama queen? Like he invented shadows?
Modern fans don't know about Toth because his comics are old as shit. Why you gotta invent drama just because you found an old name and want to brag about it?
Chase Thompson
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Glamourpuss goes into autistic detail on inkers and the "realism" style.
Hudson Perez
I'm not really seeing it OP. I'm not a good artist so I admit I may be a poor judge. Just saying that as a layman, this doesn't look like Mignola.
John Jones
Once I started looking into Terry and the Pirates I could see how Milton Caniff's stuff I could see how Jack Kirby, Alex Toth, Darwyn Cooke, and others were influenced by him. A lot of comic book fans in the last three decades aren't really knowledgeable of the comic strips that indirectly built the comic book foundation.
Adam Rogers
Same here. These guys and Winsor McCay were geniuses. I'd really like to get my hands on some Caniff but there's a lot and it's all expensive.
Blake Adams
Same goes for a lot of great cartoonists.
I'm personally a fan of Jerry Grandenetti.
Landon Perry
Frank Robbins is pretty good too.
Wyatt Mitchell
Mucho gracias for the info on Milton Caniff, this the first time hearing about him.
Lots of people hate crazy Dave, I’ve almost finished Cerebus, smart guy. Have one or two issues of glamourpuss should probably try them again.
Mostly the post modern ish solid blacks with minimal transition tones and fuck offish thin/bold lines and fuck off shadows.
You’re the faggot with sand in your pussy starting ‘drama’, what are you fucking 15? Comics fucking suck if there’s no drama you ignorant fuck- I’m just trying to start a conversation with a mildly confrontational hook so that we may discuss artists and learn who is an originator of a particular style.
Knowledge combined, nerd.
Keep reading, you dont have to be an artist to see similarities- but you have to expose yourself to a f-Ton more material: see if you can see it in pic related, it’s mastered instead of original.
Jace Scott
This looks beautiful, what comic is that?
Nathaniel Parker
Mike Mignola once met Frazetta and told him he was a huge influence. Frank told him he didn't see it and that he looks more like Toth.
Josiah Foster
The panels are from Rip Kirby, a comic strip by Alex Raymond
Eli Brooks
I think Toth's biggest breakthrough is that he combined that sort of style with cartoon stylization. Granted Caniff did very similar, but Toth's main difference was stripping as much excess linework commonly associated with traditional illustration and pushing the black, hard shapes over rendering. a lot of it is probably due to him working in animation.
Henry Parker
Fuck, I forgot to mention Robbins as another guy who definitely looks like he got influenced by Caniff.
Brayden Scott
Mignola fans don't know about any comics from pre-1986
Christopher Cook
Rip Kirby apparently.
Jayden Reed
On the left page, the bottom panels
What technique/medium is being used there to ge those grays?
Ethan Butler
I usually get amazed on how good the art in these old comic strips is.
Maybe it was because of the format, the rythm of work or maybe because only the best of them are still remembered, most probably it is because I don't know too much to compare them with, but damn, they are great.
Lucas Harris
it looks like hatching, but I can't really be sure unless I can see a close-up of the panel.
Lucas Sullivan
If you mean the right page with the car headlights, its watered down white-out.
Kayden Watson
My mistake, yes I meant the RIGHT page
> its watered down white-out.
Watered down? Won't it make more sense to be watered down ink or ink and whiteout mixed?
Zachary Miller
I know, I had the same feeling when I first looked into them in the last 10 years. The big problem I think is the fact they weren't kept in print for a long time and people don't understand how important they were. Most people's knowledge of comic strips at best is like, Peanuts, Garfield, Calvin and Hobbes, Far Side, Bloom County, Doonesbury, etc. Mostly stuff from the last 40 years if they're aware at all. People mainly remember Flash Gordon as the 1980's movie and not know how influential the comic strip is.