>Hawkman inspired Adam Strange to be Rann's champion
>Hawkman founded the Blackhawks and owns Blackhawk Island
>Hawkman defeated Barbatos
>Hawkman redeemed The Shade and gave him his cane
>Hawkman taught Supergirl on Krypton
>Hawkman was a New God
>Hawkman was Black Adam's best friend
>Hawkman lead the Justice Society for longer than any other member
>Hawkman lead the Bird Tribe
>Hawkman is the greatest detective off history
>Hawkman's mace can be recalled
>Hawkman's wings retract
>Hawkman's costume can instantaneously appear
>Hawkman can oneshot a gorilla golem
>Hawkman can talk to his past lives
>Hawkman can generate earthquakes
>Hawkman has a cosmic army at his command
>Hawkman genocided Earth, Thanagar and Rann at the dawn of the universe
>Hawkman can defeat a dragon
>Hawkman discovered the Dark Multiverse
>Hawkman discovered the Microverse before The Atom
Hawkman Thread!
Why is he green
answer bitch
why the fuck is he green
look at this get
why is he green
How do we fix Hawkmans stupid ass design?
>keep the green and gold color scheme
>costume now has an undershirt, no sleeves and covers just the torso
>boots now have gold talon like greaves
>change the helmet, the helmet is easily the worst with the big dumb wings on it, make it closer to Griffiths helmet but with a sharper "beak"
>getting rid of the bare chest
>getting rid of the helmet in favour of a shittier version
For what purpose?
>getting rid of the bare chest
Because he isn't bulletproof isn't he?
And those chest thongs are something too Golden Age if you want Hawkman to be in modern time.
>getting rid of the helmet in favour of a shittier version
Wings ears and supposedly open mouth hawk's helmet is a bad design that doesn't even look like an hawk.
Griffith from Berserk helmet looks like an hawk.
>Because he isn't bulletproof isn't he?
And a sleeveless undershirt is? That's only an argument if you were proposing a kevlar vest or armour of some sort.
His exposed chest and chest thong invokes the image of a gladiator, which communicates his martial culture. It makes sense, and it looks good.
>Wings ears and supposedly open mouth hawk's helmet is a bad design that doesn't even look like an hawk.
Griffiths helmet is too big. It's fucking bulbous and Hawkman's deisgn would look absurdly lopsided if he wore it. Hawkman's helmet is fine. It's classic, and while you for some reason dislike wing ears they look good and suit his avian theme.
>His exposed chest and chest thong invokes the image of a gladiator, which communicates his martial culture. It makes sense, and it looks good.
Fair, chest thong remains.
>Griffiths helmet is too big. It's fucking bulbous and Hawkman's deisgn would look absurdly lopsided if he wore it.
You just need to shrink it and make it pratical, Phantom's from Phantom of the Paradise helmet is exactly what Hawkman should wear if you go for that.
>Hawkman's helmet is fine. It's classic, and while you for some reason dislike wing ears they look good and suit his avian theme.
I don't know Hawkman's story pretty much if not the DCAU version, but I doubt his original planet's birds have winged ears, and if they did he wouldn't remember them. Winged ears looks bad, you can't tell it's a bird theme with winged ears
Shade never needed to be redeemed. He was always based.
Gonna post Hawkworld later. It would make a great movie, too.
I think we just disagree on the aesthetics of winged ears, so forget about that. But the closed face designs you're proposing don't work either. If you hide his face you make him seem less human, and make it harder for the artists to let him emote. Yes, it makes it clear that he is HAWKman, but the hooked beak nose typically conveys the bird theme and his giant wings can clue in even the dumbest reader. That aside, making such a huge change to his design would definitely reduce the already limited recognition factor he's built up. Unless there's a real reason to do so I wouldn't.
Just the Truman stuff or the whole thing?
Why are hawkman's asscheeks so fucking huge in this panel? Holy kek
Peak performance
That is clearly Beast Boy.
The fact that we never got a team up during the HB Beyond line is a fucking travesty
I thought about why Hawkman became such a mess compared to the other silver age revivals and then realized it was purely because Gardner Fox got lazy.
>I thought about why Hawkman became such a mess compared to the other silver age revivals and then realized it was purely because Gardner Fox got lazy.
explain
With the silver age revivals that were headed by Julius Schwartz and written by Fox, John Broome or Robert Kanigher (and others) the standard procedure had been to make the "new" iteration very different from the original. Barry Allen was a very different character from Jay Garrick in both costume, tone and setting. Hal Jordan was very different from Alan Scott. Ray Palmer was entirely different from Al Pratt. With Hawkman, though, Fox reused so much of the original setup for Hawkman. He had largely the same costume, the same sidekick (now with red hair), and the same private identity. I think the fact that both Hawkmen were Carter Hall is what caused the eventually SNAFU with Crisis, because they were just too similar to co-exist on the same earth without a contrived explanation. The first of those being Hawkworld Annual #1 which made Katar's father be involved with Carter and develop NTH metal in the 40s (but still didn't adress the other similarities). Nothing like this had ever happened with any of the other silver age revival characters, while they have had some of their stuff tied in with their golden age originals, it never made their lore totally fucked up and in need of constant reboots and retcons.
Based as always
More like DC got lazy and refused to decide post-Crisis whether Hawkman was a Golden Age or Silver Age character, but then also for absolutely no reason made Hawkworld Katar and Silver Age Katar different people.
Literally all they had to do was get rid of Golden Age Carter or make him unrelated like the rest of the League, then have Truman Katar replace Silver Age Hawkman. By trying to eat their cake and have it too, they made it so nothing made sense.
a prime example of why DC suffers from so many tacky contrivances. he's a fucking dude in a hawk helmet with hings wielding a mace. for fuck's sake
They did it because both of them were Carter Hall. That's literally where it all started. There was a very strict editorial rule following COIE that DC was not doing any "duplicate" heroes anymore, which is why they threw the JSA into limbo and depowered every Green Lantern except Hal. This also extended to them getting into a tizzy about there being two Carter Halls with wings, which led to... unpleasant details.
>a prime example of why DC suffers from so many tacky contrivances. he's a fucking dude in a hawk helmet with hings wielding a mace. for fuck's sake
Just because the theme is simple doesn't mean you have to make it too simple. Hawkman is just why you shouldn't exagerate that
>With Hawkman, though, Fox reused so much of the original setup for Hawkman. He had largely the same costume, the same sidekick (now with red hair), and the same private identity.
I would have made him an egyptian guy that dresses as an Hawk in Marvel's Falcon style. He is from Khandaq.
>Because he isn't bulletproof.
>Helmet is bad design.
Don't care, he looks perfect
Hawkman isn't bulletproof?