What are some good 90s batman comics? I saw that Grant Morrison described the era as snarling, paranoid soldier batman...

The 00s had some fantastic stuff but most of it was auxiliary to the main titles. Gotham Central, Legends of the Dark Knight, and Dini's tenure on Detective Comics were all solid. Cataclysm and No Mans Land were also pretty cool but I'm not a huge fan of big 'event' comics.

90s Batman is a real slog. It's a deluge of bat crossover event after bat crossover event. Be prepared to read a bunch of Nightwing and Catwoman issues you never would have bothered with. Oh and every single one of these issues is written by Chuck Dixon because he doesn't sleep I guess.
Good mainline? Part 1 of Knightfall. Moench/Kelly. Part 1 of No Man's Land. That's it. The rest of it you read just to say you read it.
There is good 90s Batman but it's not mainline stuff. Think Loeb/Sale, LOTDK, Arkham Asylum, Mad Love, Batman Adventures, Batman vs Dredd/Predator.

Idk what the fuck you're talking about, Dixon's Batman is great.

It's not great. It's fine. It's event after event after event after event after event, over the course of which the Batfamily swelled into a legion. The post-Year One pre-Knightfall period was far better.

The runs by Wolfman, Grant, Wagner, Milligan, Dixon, and Moench.

Denny O'Neil was the Batman group editor for the 90's and he maintained a pretty consistent level of quality across all the Bat-books. However, on the writing side, things are dominated by guys like Chuck Dixon. Now, I'm a Dixon fan, but he's not a brilliant, paradigm shifting creator. He was a solid workhorse of a writer who would regularly produce good content. He'll ultimately be remembered for the volume of solid material he put out in the 90's than for any one standout work.

any Batman book from the 90s is better than any Batman book after the 90s

>He'll ultimately be remembered for the volume of solid material he put out in the 90's than for any one standout work.
This. Between Punisher and the Batfamily he was like the Cullen Bunn+ of the 90s

Legends of the Dark Knight started in '89, but it was godly.

I've been interested in the Moench/Kelley run for Kelley's art. It looks kinda like a twisted version of the Burton movies from what I've seen

I really am mostly interested in the best stuff. Batman vs Dredd sounds cool, and so does the BTAS-related stuff. No Man's Land sounds like fun

>Cullen Bunn
>solid
Not at capes.

>I really am mostly interested in the best stuff.
Like I said, the best 90s Batman wasn't mainline. The best 90s Batman work is unquestionably the Loeb/Sale stuff, so read that if you haven't (I'd be shocked if you haven't already.)

Honestly though? Read it all. Don't take my word for it. It's Batman. Even a shit Batman comic is an alright experience. You can blast through all the mainline 90s shit in a week, and at least then you'll have read it and you'll know what was up. It's "important" stuff. It's just not very good for the most part.

I was referring to high output

I can reread it, but I've always hated the Long Halloween. It has the same problem Hush had - lots of filler, a hyper-stylized batman 'epic' crammed with characters whose function in the story is basically to serve as a cameo, only to end in a lackluster mystery. I legitimately don't get why those comics are so lauded.

I'll try my best to read it all.

No matter, Dixon is much better than Bunn when it comes to capes. I'll give you Sinestro, though.

I like Dixon. You pick up a Dixon book and you know what you're getting. He knows what his job is. He's never been out to become a celebrity writer or to break into TV and movies. His purpose was to put out a fun adventure every month and that's all. Now, a Dixon story is probably never gonna knock your socks off, but it will probably hit all the right notes necessary to entertain you for a bit. Guys like that used to be the backbone of the industry and allowed the iconoclasts like Morrison to flourish. Nowadays, everybody's trying to be Morrison and things are a total mess.

>I legitimately don't get why those comics are so lauded.
The art. Some idiots think that writing is irrelevant in comics.

It’s all on average good to very good, and you wouldn’t know this if you read every 90’s Batman in a week.

>It has the same problem Hush had - lots of filler, a hyper-stylized batman 'epic' crammed with characters whose function in the story is basically to serve as a cameo
Lol if that's how you felt about Loeb/Sale I can't even imagine how you will feel about 18 members of the Batfamily attending to a Gotham-ending crisis every other month

But yeah, again, don't take my word for it. Try the stuff out for yourself. It should be experienced once at least.

>You pick up a Dixon book and you know what you're getting. He knows what his job is. He's never been out to become a celebrity writer or to break into TV and movies. His purpose was to put out a fun adventure every month and that's all. Now, a Dixon story is probably never gonna knock your socks off, but it will probably hit all the right notes necessary to entertain you for a bit. Guys like that used to be the backbone of the industry and allowed the iconoclasts like Morrison to flourish. Nowadays, everybody's trying to be Morrison and things are a total mess.

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>It’s all on average good to very good
You would have to be a delusional tier Batfag to think this. I myself am a Batfag and that's why I have read and own these comics, but I am self aware enough to know that they're crap and I only have them because of Batman

Even his recent Bane mini was better than DC’s current output despite being an average Dixon comic.

>I only have them because of Batman
This kills the industry.

Retards like me are the only reason DC is still in business.

Sale carries Loeb in all of their collaborations. His art distracts you from Loeb's shoddy work. Ditto for Jim Lee during Hush. I remember how much buzz and hype there was around Jim Lee drawing Batman at the time. Loeb just swipes his material from TV and movies and bestsellers and cobbles a weird Chinese bootleg plot together while shielding himself with big artists.

Delusional would be calling Denny O’Neil’s tenure as Bat-editor crap while claiming to be a “Batfag”.

Yeah, and only publishing Batman. But your sincerity is appreciated.

Yeah there’s really no excuse for shitting on 90’s Batman while actually paying for current year Batman.

This

Morrison's actually fairly wrong in his assessment of the 90s. The "snarling, paranoid soldier" is a characterization that only really cropped up around No Man's Land and lasted until Infinite Crisis (which directly calls out the characterization), it's far more of an early 00s thing. Also it's not entirely correct on the characterization either, as half the time he was presented more of an alienating control freak. On a more interesting note, Morrison himself kept up that characterization longer than everyone else as he used it in his Batman run while everyone else had ditched it. Morrison's Batman and Dini's 'Tec essentially had two incongruous portrayals of Batman when they debuted.

His tenure as editor *was* crap. Especially when we consider he created Azrael, one of the dumbest character concepts ever as well as another addition to the Batlegion. He is a legendary writer but his 90s editorship is the low point of his career. All the bad about 90s Batman was editorial. That's on him.
You're making a lot of assumptions about me. You can buy Batman in current year that isn't Batman *published* in current year, but I guess you aren't too bright?

This is a big chunk of bullshit, congrats.

Do you like Tom King and Scott Snyder?

OK, ladderbro.

The man just died and you're already smearing his name with lies.

Why should I answer that? So you can shit on me on some tangent? I'm not on trial here, we're talking about 90s Batman.
I just called him a legendary writer lol. But dying doesn't make you a saint, and 90s Batman is a smear on his legacy.

He wrote Azrael too, and it’s a far cry from “crap”. It seems like you just don’t like the Bat-family.

Azrael is absolutely crap dude.

Because it provides context to the argument that 90’s Batman was crap. Weird how you’re scared to answer.