Hey what the fuck is going on in batman...

Can explain the "Joker stole Bruce's fortune" thing? I can accept a lot of dumb shit in comics but that's completely retarded.

I mean Captain Hydra easily outsmarted every single Marvel hero and almost took over the planet, Captain Hydra is Captain America being influenced into turning into his arch enemy.

It's basically the same premise.

Really? How is that retarded? Literally the most average comic plot possible.

Some years ago, early in Batman's career, a master crime planner named The Designer contacted Joker, Penguin, Riddler, and Catwoman, to conceive and fund schemes years ahead of where Batman would be. Catwoman's scheme was to steal Wayne's entire fortune via all the swiss banks and shit it's divided into. Joker attacked Gotham in the guise of the Designer so that Catwoman would go through with the plan so as to protect Bruce's fortune from the designer, only to steal it from her at the last minute.

Okay well its simple really. Bruce is perhaps the biggest embezzler and tax evader on the planet. He has to hide the majority of his funding through illegal offshore accounts so he can be Batman. Catwoman was trying to help Bruce by "stealing" all of the money and putting it all in her account to keep it safe, but Joker's goons got to the Underbroker (basically villain banker) first and it was all wired to Joker's private account. With said funding Joker paid off everyone he needed to, the IRS hunting Bruce like a dog and Lucius scrambling to keep Wayne Enterprises under his control and out of Joker's hands.

I hate how people try to defends Dark Metal by saying shit like "It's stupid on purpose". Don't get me wrong, stupid on purpose stuff can be fun but it's also hard to get right. And this whole thing seems pretty half baked in my opinion.

See "so stupid its fun" CAN work, its just that Snyder is a shitty writer who can't make it entertaining. This is partly because this is happening in main canon, and the entire thing is based on cosmic Batwank.

Is there a term to describe a story being way too much in character? It sounds like the author made the characters so loyal to the source that the whole thing ended up insane.

Because of this I guess it's because due to my work I know how banking/finance works, and transferring wealth and assets of someone like Bruce isn't as simple as "they wired it all to someone else's account". Even conceiving of Bruce's fortune as a digital Scrooge McDuck pile of gold you can just steal isn't how it works, just like Jeff Bezos doesn't have actually have a bank account (or accounts) with $170 billion or whatever in them.

"character over plot"?

Explain. Is it because the number of shell corporations and international flow of credit would require days of processing given the amount and security hoops? I guess we can get away with it because its not exactly normal banking given the people overlooking it. I think Green Arrow's book had an entire global network of villain bankers too

Part of it are legal and bureaucratic hurdles, yes. It's not like you or I just going to an ATM or visiting a bank teller. But the bigger issue is that at high levels of wealth like what Bruce has, liquid assets like cash holdings make up only a tiny portion of the total fortune. The vast majority would be in business interests, managed assets like trusts, real estate holdings, fixed-income investments like bonds, stock holdings, etc.

Bruce's wealth comes from his control of the various elements of the Wayne corporate empire, just as Bezos's wealth comes from his Amazon holdings. Bruce's fortune would be far more complex than Bezos's, though, because the Wayne's are old money. The structure of his family's holdings would involve all sorts of entities, trusts, set up over the years. It's quite possible that Bruce himself doesn't directly own the majority of the Wayne holdings but only has rights as a beneficiary to the structures that were already set up to manage it.

Anyway, the point is, while he'd certainly have bank accounts with lots of money, it's a tiny drop in the bucket of his wealth and losing it wouldn't mean all that much in the grand scheme of things, just like someone getting Bezos's PIN and draining a bank account of his doesn't change his ownership share of Amazon. Bruce would probably likely have insurance or other methods set up to protect against such losses anyway, even for the shady holdings because that's part of the point of shady holdings. Certainly Batman of all people would have thought of contingencies against being robbed.

>Anyway, the point is, while he'd certainly have bank accounts with lots of money, it's a tiny drop in the bucket of his wealth and losing it wouldn't mean all that much in the grand scheme of things, just like someone getting Bezos's PIN and draining a bank account of his doesn't change his ownership share of Amazon. Bruce would probably likely have insurance or other methods set up to protect against such losses anyway, even for the shady holdings because that's part of the point of shady holdings. Certainly Batman of all people would have thought of contingencies against being robbed.
I thought the main point of the story was the Joker using Bruce tools to ruin the city, even if he can recover the money he will still feel responsible for whatever happens.

Different user, and #95 is the only post-Flashpoint issue of Batman I've read aside from Brave and the Mold, but they do say that Joker has taken all of Bruce's stock in Wayne Enterprises and is now the majority owner.

That's even more retarded, then.

>The Joker's on the phone, he says Bruce Wayne transferred all of his stock to him.
>Kind of weird that Bruce or the Wayne family trusts would sign over control of their stock to a violently insane mass murderer, but somehow we have no way to verify that and it didn't involve any kind of legal process or records at all. I guess The Joker runs the company now.

That's not how stock transfers work either. Oh well, no use being mad at a Batman comic.

Dunno, haven't read the stories, just going by what the other anons said in this thread. But all Bruce would have to do is dispute anything happening with his assets to trigger freezes and investigations into what's going on.

When we start delving into it further this should theoretically be impossible since The Joker doesn't even have a real identity or social security number

An issue of The Joker trying to open a bank account and becoming increasingly angry over all the issues stopping him but trying not to flip out because he needs the account for his schemes would be pretty funny.

pure madman over the top fun, so much seethe generated from his existence. He's definitely going to die and not return for years, maybe decades after the end of death metal.

A guy who looks like a knock-off Chameleon is posing as the Wayne financial manager and he's working for Joker. I guess publicly people don't know, but all the named characters do and everyone constantly mocks Batman throughout the issue about Joker having Wayne's fortune. I guess Bruce supporting Batman is public knowledge again with everyone lampshading the secret identity thing.
The whole issue was pretty forgettable, although that may have been because I rushed through it only reading to see what the deal was with his new action figure suit.

>A guy who looks like a knock-off Chameleon is posing as the Wayne financial manager and he's working for Joker.
Ironically, the joker first cameo was about him using desguises and fake identities to do whatever he want.