Why is it that big event villains are always the worst?
Why is it that big event villains are always the worst?
Elijah Collins
Jose Sanders
>Parallax
>Superboy Prime
>bad
No fuck off, Parallax was a great villain and Superboy Prime was lots of fun. Fuck Judge Death tho
Ian Campbell
Because villains tend to be at their best when they have both abilities and character traits that play to a particular hero or collection of heroes; sometimes they can be opposing elements, or sometimes they are the exact same traits but exaggerated to the point of insanity or aggression. Event villains, even if they were established before the big event in question, have to play to all of the present characters in some way. So they tend to be watered down, generic, and somewhat basic in characterization in order to ensure every relevant character can play off of the villain. There are exceptions to that but that's the common theme I've noticed.
James Wright
Some are good though.
Gavin Clark
But Parallax Hal and Superboy Prime are fun.
Liam Ross
because if you make "this villain is so powerful it makes the other villain look like a weakling" for 5 times then it loose all the suspence.
Think at the Anti-Monitor, he has been so overused that now beating the shit out of him is considered "beating the breakfast morning villain" and it's way Power Levels ruined comics.
Angel Barnes
Parallax was editorially mandated bullshit in order to off Hal and push the new poochie lantern.
Jaxson Reed
Editorially mandated yes, but Kyle or anyone else weren't even involved in the process at all until Dooley finally found someone willing to write the story. If Marz wasn't the one to write it, Kyle wouldn't have been used and it's strange to think how different the DC Universe would be without that. Dooley just wanted his own Death/Return of Superman or Knightfall and decided having Hal go bonkers was the best bet and ironically, it lasted longer than other 'shakeups' in the 90's that happened so maybe it wasn't such a bad idea even if it was character assassination.
Adam Cruz
Because they all came seeking defeat. The only reason any comes to the DCU.
Isaac Flores
That's the power of power creep, baby. It's a symptom of escalation. From worlds to galaxies to universes to whatever the fuck until the audience doesn't care.
Benjamin Watson
All of OP villains are corrupted heroes
William James
Okay, when are you going to post it?
Alexander Collins
>From worlds to galaxies to universes to whatever the fuck until the audience doesn't care.
That's exactly the problem with DC.
They have been used multiverses so fucking much that the known space of Earth Prime seems too fucking small.
It's so small they have to go on the super multiverse in order to have some compelling villain.
Every JL story is now a universal danger and every crisis is an omniverse danger
Joshua Gutierrez
>Every JL story is now a universal danger and every crisis is an omniverse danger
It's really only because of specific writers (Snyder in today's environment) that this is the case and the fact that they stay on so long that they create their own 'epics'. Can't just have short 3-6 issue stories that are self contained and aren't part of some overarching 50 issue plot.
Camden Nguyen
Nah he's great, actually felt like a force of nature rather than muwhahaha I'M SO EVIL like Perpetua or Knull.
Hudson Thompson
you have shit taste
Gavin Diaz
Because typically their existence and their importance are forced into the setting in a way that feels unnatural.
However,
>Parallax
>Bad
No.
Isaiah Cook
Prime was never end game event level bad guy. Just strong goon stats. Even in Legion of Three Worlds his future self used him as a goon.
Jaxon Martin
>Earth 2 Superman *just* bouncing off Anti-Moniter
That alone should convey the situtation
Carter Turner
Hal was better as a villain.
John Scott
>his future self talk to him
>by talking to him he realizes in his final moments before his timeline is altered that the reason why his life is so fucked is due to him being so arrogant and foolish, unable to listen to reason and fix his mistakes
>Prime end up deleting this timeline because he's too adamant to listen his future self
>there is no way to know if we will ever change his mind again in this new timeline
I love this story.
Michael Ramirez
Lightning Saga/JSofA/Legion of 3 Worlds were great. And to a certain extent, Countdown because you dealt with '94 versions Karate Kid and Triplicate Girl after Lightning Saga.
Dominic Lewis
Superboy prime is such a shit character and needlessly edgy that it somehow makes him a better character than 99% of the cardboard cutout cast in DC.
Lucas Young
This guy gave me a good bit of enjoyment.
David Perez
Nah man Knull just wanted to sleep until he was interrupted by asshole Monitors
Caleb Allen
Would it even work having Garth Ennis write him in a limited series?
Ian Richardson
So OP, you don't think any big crossover event main villain is worth while?
Logan Wood
>Superboy prime is such a shit character
Why?
>and needlessly edgy
Violent =/= edgy, he's no more edgy then almost every single Hulk or Batman villain
Noah Turner
Can Zig Forums make a cool evil Wonderwoman?
Someday is going to happen
Henry Cox
Not a complicated concept to be honest, keep her adventurer and warrior side while removing the altruism.
Juan Brown
Already been done
Jacob Brooks
But not really a super powered one just her normal level.
Josiah Thomas
Isn't that basically Artemis? Or she just hardcore WW?