Realistically speaking, can Shang Chi beat top dogs of DC like Batman, Lady Shiva or Cassandra?

Realistically speaking, can Shang Chi beat top dogs of DC like Batman, Lady Shiva or Cassandra?

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batman would massacre him and make him eat rats

Already does

Shang Chi could probably beat Cass but no way is he taking on Lady Shiva

Lady Shiva has been a joke for years now.

Well, Gail Simone, who's written both Shang and Shiva, said they'd fight to a draw and I'm inclined to believe her. Same with Cass. Batman he'd prolly wipe the floor with in a pure fistfight.

Shang-Chi is capable of fighting Spider-man and the Immortal Weapons with nothing but his skills. Batman, Shiva, and Cass are small time in comparison.

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In a non-wank fight, Shang would beat him. But as we've seen when Batman effortlessly beat karate kid, DC writers are contractually obligated to jerk Batman off.

Shiva probably do pretty well, but batman and Cassandra have a very low chance. Batman is a very overrated hand to hand fighter. He is good, but there are a good bit of other dc characters who are a lot better than him.

wtf is this? Who are the rest?

An Uncanny Avengers cover from a few years ago with Eastern/Manga redesigns for some characters.

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Not to me. She is actually pretty good in Batman and the Outsiders

I think Spider-woman, Captain Marvel, Hotspot and Cannonball dressed as Japanese culture and popular characters as some sort of tribute, even though Shang-chi is Chinese.

Also, the way he holds his nunchucku in a reverse grip and twirls them is just asking for trouble.

>chinese man
>surrounded by people dressed in Japanese shi t
This wouldn't fly in current year. They should totally make Jessica's costume a sailor suit.

It's alright, those are cyber nunchucks made by Tony Stark. They got all sorts of technology in them to make sure that stuff happens and shit.

This is always such a weird question because martial arts aren't really a hard power level.
It's a constant theme in martial arts films. Usually both your protagonist and antagonist are masters of their art, or the protagonist is a less experienced underdog. One character doesn't win because they're necessarily "better" than the other, they win because... they win, because it's a story.

Also in the real world with boxing, MMA, even wrestling and pro fighting games. You don't really have a hierarchy of "this is the best fighter and they will always beat everyone, this is the second best and they will always beat everyone except the best on, this is the third best" and so on. That's not really how fights work.

There's tiers, everyone in a tier together should be more or less equally matched, but have an advantage of the tier below them.

Probably most of them such as me, I don't get how you'd even know of him otherwise, his name is literally "user"

It's Deodato, he probably didn't look at what he traced

I remember old Shang chi comics from the 70s showing him doing the same thing.

Yeah, they've been trying to build her back up a bit lately, between kicking Batman's ass in two panels and needing the whole team + Cass to take her down in 'Tec, and now in Outsiders where she literally hasn't even been hit yet.

I think it gets even weirder when comparing DC and Marvel's martial artists because they're fundamentally different approaches. Marvel never had a single problem with treating sufficiently practiced martial arts as superpowers (Shang-Chi), or just plain having superpowered martial artists (Iron Fist). Meanwhile, DC for better or for worse nearly always tried to approach things in a plausible way. Even Cass, who does insanely impossible kung fu shit every day, has to have a plausible pseudo-scientific explanation behind her godlike skills, and Shiva, who was reintroduced in Question as a more wuxia fantasy character, was immediately dragged down to a grounded level in Death in the Family.

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I find it funniest in Outsiders where she destroys Katana off panel. Like there was no point to even show it cause it was too easy.

>Owns her in Young Justice despite Katana using two swords
>Owns her in Outsiders despite both of them using katanas
Tatsu should stop, really. This is just getting embarrassing.

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What was Batman's plan in the last 3 panels?

Shang-Chi easily.

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Putting a tracer on her so he'd at least know where she was going, probably.

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Would need someone like Karate Kid if you want a DC martial artists to fight Shang-Chi and actually have a chances.

Shang would kick Batman and Lady Shiva's asses. Have any of you read MoKF? His villains are already more lethal and he's already a top-tier fighter.

But recently he has been nerfed to losing to Captain America in Secret Avengers

A lot of that has to do to the fact that he had to job to make a more prominent character look better. But now that he's getting the limelight he'll be showcased better.

From the same Hackman that had old man Steve Rogers overpower and defeat Superior Tony in his Superior Iron-man armor. Had Starbrand tank everything Hulk and Thor threw at him and toss them around like a ragdoll. Had Pod effortlessly defeat all the Avengers. Had Captain Universe be useless during the entirety of Infinity only to deus ex machina the problem away last minute. Turn Annihilus into a useless jobber.

It was Remender actually

The point still stand. Narrative just change a bit. People job to Captain America all the time. Like when Captain America resisted Kid Omega's telepathy because of AMERICA!