>Aang can ignore his biological needs for 100 years in the Avatar state
>Kyoshi can't ignore excessive heat in the Avatar state
>Roku can't shield his lungs from volcanic dust in the Avatar state
>Korra can't resist mercury poisoning in the Avatar state
Is Aang a Gary Stu?
Nah, the just nerfed the Avatar state.
Aang also cut his life span dramatically short pulling that stunt because of the physical strain being in the Avatar State had on his body. Fucker could've lived to be as old, if not older than Kiyoshi and he only lived to be into his biological fifties.
Adding consequences later doesn't make it any less bullshit.
Aang isn't even among the strongest Avatars out there and yet he gets a free pass while not even being a fully realized Avatar.
This whole thing screams plot armor.
To be fair, throughout the show, being frozen was shown to be no big deal. Katara froze tons of people and they usually turned out okay. They hardly even wore especially heavy clothing in the Poles, aside from the actual Water Tribe people. People from that world might just be able to survive freezing and cold temperatures better.
Go freeze yourself in a block of ice for 100 years and see how badly you need to eat or go to the bathroom. He’s in frozen stasis, of course he doesn’t need to take a shit or anything else
Katara froze Jet to a tree a left him there, yet he somehow survived.
Aang is not frozen.
He's inside a bubble of air where he doesn't need to eat, drink and sleep while generating just enough heat to keep himself from freezing for 100 years straight.
And all of this while doing the same thing to Appa.
If Avatars that are much more powerful than him - like Kyoshi, Yangchen and Korra - can't achieve lesser feats then it's plot armor.
>Plot armor is a plot device that prevents important characters from dying or being seriously injured at dramatically inconvenient moments.
It's plot armor anons.
>Don't know how criogenics work
PLOT ARMOR
Eh, you're most likely baiting for really uncalled and pointless argument.
>He's inside a bubble of air
Uhh, no?
>Fucker could've lived to be as old, if not older than Kiyoshi and he only lived to be into his biological fifties.
Aang died at 66, while kinda young compared to folks like Bumi or Roku, that's still a long life. As for Kyoshi, she literally learned the secrets of immorality, so no, Aang was never gonna be as old as her.
writers just didn't understand the effects of freezing living cells
It's not even powerlevel bullshit just a science error from people writing a show about magic
First of all it's cryogenics.
And second of all cryopreservation requires temperatures below −70C which don't exist inside icebergs nor do they exist below the thick ice layer that forms in frozen oceans.
Good job being this ignorant.
Yes he is.
Watch episode 1 again, as soon as Katara cracks the ice air bursts out of it and explodes the ice shell.
Does it matter? It's a television show about element wizards intended for children.
It wouldn't matter if it wasn't held as the pinnacle of writing by so many.
There are so many big problems in the writing that it feels very odd that it gets a free pass.
>If Avatars that are much more powerful than him - like Kyoshi, Yangchen
Okay makes sense
>and Korra
The fuck?
Writers of a children’s show about magic don’t know how cryogenics work? Color me fucking shocked and surprised! Seriously it’s pretty clear it’s a combination of combination of avatar state plus being frozen keeping him in stasis. In fact they say multiple times throughout the show that Aang was “frozen”.
Keep in mind this is a show where people shoot fire out of their fists and make rocks levitate. Being kept in stasis by an iceberg is perfectly inline with that setting.
Oh, you didn't know?
No matter, that's not the subject being discussed here.
I hope you're aware that you're basically calling it an asspull.
Hard magic systems like the one found in the Avatar series are called that because the workings of said magic system are explained and several rules are established.
Not explaining it in any way, especially when compared to other Avatars, is bad writing.
Hence I asked if Aang can be considered a Gary Stu for working outside of the established boundaries of the setting when the plot demands it.
>Avatar
>Hard magic system
Ha! The fuck it is.
All the Avatar series together have introduced several forms of bending with no real explanation or that break previously established rules. IE: lightning bending, blood bending during the day, spirit bending, and lava bending, and literal levitation. To say that Aang entering stasis by being frozen-with or without help of the Avatar state- is an asspull solely because it doesn’t cater to your autism is fucking ridiculous.
If you’re going to criticize anything it should be the spirit bending ending scene. Complaining about the iceberg is pure autism.
The Avatar series explains how the Avatar state works, what it is, what it does and doesn't, how it began, how it can end and how it relates to spirits.
It also explains how bending works through chi and chakra, how chi blockers can temporarily disable bending, what it can and can't do, how it first came to be, how it developed over time and how particular types of bending like lightning, blood and metal work.
Lightning is formed by separating yin energy and yang energy, bloodbending is done by directly interfering with someone's chi flow through water and metalbending works by knowing that metal is nothing more than earth that's been purified and refined up to a point.
Therefore it is a hard magic system.
For the love of God do some basic studying on writing and common definitions used in writing BEFORE trying to argue.
Stop wasting my time, if you've got nothing to say then don't say it.
No, he is just tougher.
Last I heard Gary Stu/Mary Su actually meant something, like a phrase that wasn't just "this is shit".
And none of that means that the avatar state shouldn't be able to keep Aang alive in an iceberg for a century.
I can give you one of the commonly accepted definitions if that makes you feel better.
That's why you should read the OP.
The setting also established mortal limits to the Avatar state by showing how even stronger Avatars are incapable of ignoring their human half and its needs for survival.
Aang breaks this rule without any explanation being provided, it just happens because the plot demands it to happen.
Are you forgetting the time that Azula struck him down with lightning in the avatar state
Azula is cannonically stronger than Kiyoshi though
Nope.
But if you're willing to help me by adding yet another limitation of the Avatar state to this thread be my guest.
dykes are weak
considering that he never moved and was briefly unconscious before release, its pretty obvious that the writers intended it to be a cryogenics reference. even if temperature is a problem, considering that its an avatar state and that its canonical that aang uses airbending to regulate body temperature which allows him to traverse the north/south poles without that much clothing, its not too much of a stretch tor realize that either the writers made a scientific error or that the avatar state allows such temperatures to be sustained in the first place.
I'm willing to accept the cryopreservation hypothesis is the they retcon it into being such a thing.
As it stands they went with what looked the coolest intro without giving it much of a thought.
>is the they retcon
if they retcon*
Fixed, that was messy.
My man this is among the very first things established, it's within the first five minutes. It's clear to anyone who isn't an autist that they were referencing cryogenic freezing, my dumb 10 year old self was able to put that together. No where does it make it out that he was conscious during that time, he remembers going in the water and then waking up, that is explicitly said, again very, very early on. This isn't a retcon, this is you taking a stupid assumption and then building it into a plothole that doesn't exist.
4/10, got me to reply.